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Re: Cock pit crew named in Asiana Flight 214 disaster
Reply #60 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:54am
 
Chard wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:23am:
ian wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:16pm:
Get over yourself, dumbass. You have no idea of my life experience or my experience with racism. You are just being the stereotypical kneejerk angry black man.


Then by all means, tell me your tale of dealing with racism.  Tell me all about how you've had to work harder than those around you and get paid less for it because of your skin tone. Tell me all about the times you've been called slurs or even assaulted because of your skin tone.

If you don't have such tales to tell then I'd advise you to shut the f*ck up.

I dont have to tell you anything, I have nothing to defend. But as it turns out I have been assaulted (well, attempted assault) and called slurs because of my skin tone. Many, many times, more times than I can remember, quite often on a daily basis and accompanied by the word c*nt, and dog. Like I said, you have no idea of my life experience. You also have no idea about australia or australians.  You really need to get over yourself.
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Reply #61 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:07am
 
Chard wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:23am:
Then by all means, tell me your tale of dealing with racism.  Tell me all about how you've had to work harder than those around you and get paid less for it because of your skin tone. Tell me all about the times you've been called slurs or even assaulted because of your skin tone.

If you don't have such tales to tell then I'd advise you to shut the f*ck up.



Every race has variations of racists, from basic tribalism (belonging to a goup or ethnicity) to out and out haters. Some people are just arseholes.


Damn Ive been called some nasty racists slurs as I have walked down the street (enen as an adult)and I have had six shades of sh1t knocked out of me when I was a kid, all because I was white. I see those same kids as grown ups, thier lives are sh1t and they're raving alchoholics and I just smile.


Like I said some people are just arseholes, depends if your are on the receiving end or not.



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Reply #62 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:31am
 
Chard wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 7:02am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 6:31am:
The funny part is that the news reader read those names thinking they were the actual names of the cabin crew, seriously.....with a straight face, didn't pick up on it, that's the price the tv networks pay for thinking youtube is a reliable source of information.


It wasn't YouTube that KTUV got their information from. Apparently it was some intern at the NTSB. Still doesn't absolve KTUV for their screw up in actually reporting something that was obviously false. After all, those names went through the news show's producer, their entire line production staff, their head writer and all their writing staff, the guy that input the names into the teleprompter, and the smiling idiot sitting behind the desk in front of the cameras and not a single one of them stopped and thought "There's something fishy going on here".

That's an indication that everyone involved with that news show is weapons-grade retarded.


Well, the joke is on the news presenters. That side of it is funny.  I know a few Asian people, and I doubt if any of them would be offended. It's a play on language, not racial characteristics. I guess it depends on intent.

The other aspect is that it's cruel to the people who lost loved ones on that flight.


One Indonesian guy I know who speaks perfect English actually sent me a joke which you might find offensive. It was having a go at the Vietnamese accent. I didn't read it as racist. I'll see if I can find the joke online.

Quote:
(ring tine)

Room Service (RS): "Morrin. Roon sirbees."

Guest (G): "Sorry, I thought I dialed room-service."

RS: "Rye..Roon sirbees..morrin! Jewish to oddor sunteen??"

G: "Uh..yes..I'd like some bacon and eggs."

RS: "Ow July den?"

G: "What??"

RS: "Ow July den?...pryed, boyud, poochd?"

G: "Oh, the eggs! How do I like them? Sorry, scrambled please."

RS: "Ow July dee baykem? Crease?"

G: "Crisp will be fine."

RS: "Hokay. An Sahn toes?"

G: "What?"

RS: "An toes. July Sahn toes?"

G: "I don't think so."

RS: "No? Judo wan sahn toes??"

G: "I feel really bad about this, but I don't know what 'judo wan sahn toes means."

RS: "Toes! toes!...Why jew don juan toes? Ow bow Anglish moppin we bodder?"

G: "English muffin!! I've got it! You were saying 'Toast.' Fine. Yes, an English muffin will be fine."

RS: "We bodder?"

G: "No...just put the bodder on the side."

RS: "Wad?"

G: "I mean butter...just put it on the side."

RS: "Copy?"

G: "Excuse me?"

RS: "Copy...tea...meel?"

G: "Yes. Coffee, please, and that's all."

RS: "One Minnie. Scramah egg, crease baykem, Anglish moppin we bodder on sigh and copy....rye??"

G: "Whatever you say."

RS: "Tenjewberrymuds."

G: "You're very welcome."



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Reply #63 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:41am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:07am:
Every race has variations racists, from basic tribalism (belonging to a goup or ethnicity) to out and out haters. Some people are just arseholes.

Damn Ive been called some nasty racists slurs as I have walked down the street (enen as an adult)and I have had six shades of sh1t knocked out of me when I was a kid, all because I was white. I see those same kids as grown ups, thier lives are sh1t and they're raving alchoholics and I just smile.

Like I said some people are just arseholes, depends if your are on the receiving end or not.



It's funny you should say that. The only place I've experienced that was in Townsville. I was walking across the pedestrian bridge from  the Palmer Street area to get a bite to eat in the city with my colleague who was manager of our Ghanaian operation. We were accosted by some very loud mouthed Aboriginal youths and my colleague was actually quite bemused at the fact that they referred to him as their brother.  He was a bit offended by the language they used too, being a born again Christian type.

The worst they did apart from the verbal onslaught was to ask for money, which I refused.
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Reply #64 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:56am
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:42am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:43am:
Ask any taxi driver in Sydney what's the problem with picking up Abos, and they'll tell you they're more afraid of vomit on the seat than them doing a runner.

 


I drove taxis in Melbourne back when I was studying. All the runners, all the drunks, and all the people who would argue/haggle over fares were white.

The Aboriginals were the best customers I had - friendly and well-behaved.


They didn't stink either - which is more than I can say for a some of the white customers I had.



Fair enough. I believe you.

It must be a Sydney thing, then. It's a brave taxi driver here who will pick up Pacific Islanders or Abos after dark.

To be fair, there's also a lot of aggressive young whites who come out of the pubs late at night looking for a taxi. The Manly area is a notorious hot spot for young drunk whites looking for a fight late at night.
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Reply #65 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:59am
 
muso wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:41am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:07am:
Every race has variations racists, from basic tribalism (belonging to a goup or ethnicity) to out and out haters. Some people are just arseholes.

Damn Ive been called some nasty racists slurs as I have walked down the street (enen as an adult)and I have had six shades of sh1t knocked out of me when I was a kid, all because I was white. I see those same kids as grown ups, thier lives are sh1t and they're raving alchoholics and I just smile.

Like I said some people are just arseholes, depends if your are on the receiving end or not.



It's funny you should say that. The only place I've experienced that was in Townsville. I was walking across the pedestrian bridge from  the Palmer Street area to get a bite to eat in the city with my colleague who was manager of our Ghanaian operation. We were accosted by some very loud mouthed Aboriginal youths and my colleague was actually quite bemused at the fact that they referred to him as their brother.  He was a bit offended by the language they used too, being a born again Christian type.

The worst they did apart from the verbal onslaught was to ask for money, which I refused.



That is the traditional North Queensland welcome for a lot of white bastards.
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Reply #66 - Aug 2nd, 2013 at 12:25pm
 
Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
Lol. It's white vs white!!!

My "racist" father says nasty things about white people from time to time.


Tell him I forgive him.

I too say nasty things about white people from time to time ~ and my own ass is white....

Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
Those racist rants on public transport I have seen posted on YouTube recently are getting interesting. I would hate to see my father, a first-generation, foreign-born immigrant, get into an altercation with those xenophobes. That would be embarrassing. I wonder what he'll say. I hope I'm miles away when it happens. I wouldn't want to be in the middle of that storm.


I've watched them too. In a couple of cases I personally would have physically shut them up myself rather than be made an unwilling accomplice to their rude and unfair behaviour by not intervening.

But there were a couple of YouTubes of women in England having a rant on buses in London, and in those particular cases I probably would have said nothing.

I would have left it as an education to all the ethnics in these buses that there IS an alternative view of Britain having been invaded by foreigners than the cozy view that the politicians and self-haters would have the ethnics believe.

The mass-immigration that has swamped Britain was imposed on the population from on high. It was 'push'-politics, not 'pull'-politics that has resulted in London now being a shrinking white minority with nearly 2 million Muslims living in the London area.

What people refer to as 'racism' is in fact 'tribalism'. Polish immigration is deeply resented in parts of Britain by the local whites. Tribal loyalties come to the fore when ones town becomes flooded with Polish shop signs, Polish this and Polish that.   

Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
I think Charles Teo was right. Racism isn't just a problem for white people, but ethnic minorities as well. If white people have to stop being racist, ethnic minorities have to stop being racist as well.


I believe that in many cases where whites are being accused of 'racism', this is a lazy substitute for the far more correct 'culturalism'.

Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
I think what Chard is misunderstanding here is that white people everywhere are always the dominant group. I think the "Battle of Brisbane" riots showed that not all whites are equal and white people don't even always respect each other, even if they speak the same language. The white American soldiers that landed in Australia during World War II were condescending and patronising towards the white Australian soldiers. I think the white Australian soldiers were so annoyed at being treated like second-class citizens in their own country that they started being friendly toward the African American soldiers. They even allowed their women to hang around them. I suppose their logic was, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," and fraternising with African American soldiers was a way of "sticking it to the white Americans."


Interesting.

The way I heard it, when the Americans arrived here, the Australian women couldn't believe how well-mannered and courteous these soldiers were. The Australian women found themselves being treated as equals to the men, and their conversation was valued by these Yanks.

Previous to this Cultural Shock event, the Australian women were used to being relegated to a corner where the women were to gather in complete separation from the men.

The Americans had money, manners, sophistication, were good at conversation and dancing ~ and ENJOYED the company of women.

And so...  the average Aussie thought of them as 'poofs'.

If you weren't a drunken, swearing, fist-fighting, vomiting Aussie male ~ then you were a 'poof!'.  Grin Grin Grin

My father spent the war years here in Australia before returning to north China. He hated both Australians and the Yanks.  Grin

Those American soldiers were nearly all of Irish, Italian, Polish, and Hispanic background.

Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
Because white Australians were part of a tiny, insignificant nation of only several million and had never had any big influence on the world, they didn't have the same "big ego" as white Americans.


I'm not too sure about that. When I came to Australia from England in 1962, the first thing that struck me was how loudly the Australian male talked. Everything was said in a loud and forceful way. You were practically shouted at by them.

Mnemonic wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
The original intention was for Australia to be a "white paradise." Until the 1970s, Australia was one of the whitest and most "British" (by ancestry) nations in the world. However, the progressive faction in politics decided that the White Australia Policy just couldn't continue. I'm not sure if it was the "populate or perish" argument or because of the number of non-British people already living in Australia, married to white spouses or who were born here and couldn't be deported.


I'll say this about your ordinary, working-class Aussie male ~ I think they are genuinely the least racist people in the world. And even I'm surprised by this.
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