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Reply #45 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 12:50pm
 
I edited my post that you quoted - because I incorrectly dated your article from 2010.

Jews are still in Yemen today, even if plans are afoot to evacuate the last of them.

Just be man enough to admit your mistake (and maybe apologise for abusing me about it), and lets move on shall we?  Smiley
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #46 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 1:51pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 12:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:29am:
Gandalf, does telling one of his successors that he "will" ethnically cleanse the entire Arabian peninsula count as a sinister plot?


No, and 'ethnically cleanse' is the wrong term. They were all the same ethnicity.



What is the appropriate term? Does ethnicity mean only race?

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Sure, how about the fact that jews have lived in Yemen continuously until this very day. Jews lived throughout the Arabian peninsula until the 1950s.


Right, despite Mo's prediction, Umar only cleansed them (and all the other non-Muslims) from the Hijaz area. We have gone over this already Gandalf. It took until modern times for Muslims to fullfill Mo's prophecy for all the Jews in Arabia.

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The point is, nowhere can you find any instance where Muhammad broke the covenant, and expelled non-muslims simply because they were non-muslims.


So this makes it different from every other historical example of ethnic cleansing, which occurred in some kind of causal vacuum?
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Reply #47 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 2:28pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 1:51pm:
Right, despite Mo's prediction, Umar only cleansed them (and all the other non-Muslims) from the Hijaz area. We have gone over this already Gandalf. It took until modern times for Muslims to fullfill Mo's prophecy for all the Jews in Arabia.
Do you understand nothing? There are still Jews in Arabia. There are Jews today in Yemen, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, Algeria, Palestine, Syria and probably elsewhere.

The prophesy is understood to have meant the Arab heartland which is accepted as either the Hijaz region.

The only Jews in the Arab heartland lived around the settlement of Madina. This was because they were waiting for a promised prophet to arrive there.

When a prophet arrived, only half a dozen rabbis accepted him. The rest of the Jews did not want to accept a prophet who was not from their own tribe. The remaining Jews around Madina, despite making peace treaties, continuously demonstrated hostility to the Muslims and the Islamic state.

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Reply #48 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 3:54pm
 
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Do you understand nothing? There are still Jews in Arabia.


How many - outside of Israel?

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The prophesy is understood to have meant the Arab heartland which is accepted as either the Hijaz region.


Understood by whom? People who don't understand what a peninsula is? People who feel the need to re-write history so it looks like Muhammed's prophesy was fulfilled and it was therefor not some kind of instruction?
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