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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #45 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:05pm And then they raped them. Gandalf, what are your thoughts on the other Jewish tribes that bought some of them off Muhammed because they felt guilty about their involvement in Muhammed evil deeds? It hardly makes it sound like turning them into sex slaves was the only way to help these women.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #46 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:18pm freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:05pm: And then they raped them. I've yet to see any evidence of that.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18774 Gender:	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #47 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:26pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:18pm: freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:05pm: And then they raped them. I've yet to see any evidence of that. Go read your holy books gandalf. Try this verse Gandalf-www.sunnah.com/bukhari/64/182
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #48 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:30pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:18pm: freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:05pm: And then they raped them. I've yet to see any evidence of that. So what do you think concubine means Gandalf? Remember, raping your wife is not a punishable offence in Islam, so how do you think concubines got along?
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Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion
Reply #49 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:49pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

Try this verse Gandalf-www.sunnah.com/bukhari/64/182

yes? and where is the raping described?

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

So what do you think concubine means Gandalf?

Umm... a woman who lives with a man, but who is not married to him?

Is that your definition of rape? Are you trying to be stupid?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #50 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:55pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

Try this verse Gandalf-www.sunnah.com/bukhari/64/182

yes? and where is the raping described?

Are you claiming the female captives consented to having sex with those muslims who captured them on the very same day?

What is the arabic word for rape?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #51 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:10pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:49pm: freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:30pm: So what do you think concubine means Gandalf? Umm... a woman who lives with a man, but who is not married to him?
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Reply #52 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:15pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:55pm:

Are you claiming the female captives consented to having sex with those muslims who captured them on the very same day?

umm.. you'll have to show me where it says it was all done on the same day.

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

Grin

lols indeed - you justify your accusation of rape by mentioning the word "concubine" - as if the two words are synonymous.

Jokes on you FD.

edit - wait, FD you are saying concubine means something different?

A woman who cohabits with a man without being legally married to him.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/concubine

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #53 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

Try this verse Gandalf-www.sunnah.com/bukhari/64/182

yes? and where is the raping described?

gandalf,

SCENARIO;

I somehow successfully steal YOUR sister for ransom [so that i can 'legitimately' 'earn' some money for myself].
But, while YOUR sister is in my custody, i decide to have sex with her.
And i do have sex with her.

gandalf,
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If i am detaining your sister [preventing her from leaving], and i have sex with her, then in what sense did i NOT rape your sister ?

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The scenario, is one which Mohammed and his companions 'played out'.

That that event occurred, is recorded in the Hadith.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #54 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:32am:

But Mohammed [and his men] took those women and children captive, because Mohammed didn't want those women and children to be destitute.

Very true Y.

gandalf,

So, you are not always being a candid, and a sincere moslem person, on this forum, then ? Wink

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #55 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:52pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

Remember, raping your wife is not a punishable offence in Islam, so how do you think concubines got along?

For nearly all of Christian/Western history, marital rape was not a punishable offence.

So obviously that means most Christian/Western men throughout history raped their wives right? Because if the government doesn't stop you, then you will surely do it right?

Freediver does this mean that you are the product of rape?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #56 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:58pm Rape was pretty common in the past. I have no doubt that plenty of my ancestors were raped. Most people would prefer sex slaves and carting women home from battle to stay in the past. Same with slaughtering every able bodied man.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #57 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:56pm Mohammed was a priapic, horny Arab. 10 wives? Hello?! A sex addict hearing self-justifying voices.
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Reply #58 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:57pm

True Colours wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

Remember, raping your wife is not a punishable offence in Islam, so how do you think concubines got along?

For nearly all of Christian/Western history, marital rape was not a punishable offence.

You are not living in 'nearly all of history'.

You are living NOW!

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam is not a peaceful religion Reply #59 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:25pm Soren wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:56pm: Mohammed was a priapic, horny Arab. 10 wives? Hello?! A sex addict hearing self-justifying voices. Feeling a little inadequate Soren?
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