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Re: How to stop the boats
Reply #60 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 7:34pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
Didn't seem to be a problem last time if I recall. Aussie...You see KRudd has taught the malingerers a trick or two under his stewardship.

There is always a solution but that weak turd Rudd won't make the hard decisions.


That's the trouble with you lot....
You all live in the past.

You still driving around in a Stanley Steamer, Red??

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Reply #61 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 7:40pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 6:47pm:
Has no one looked back over their shoulder.

The answer to this is screaming at you.

Under John Howard's policy of turning the boats back, only 2 boats got through in a year.

Once we get a Government who have a half an ounce of backbone and send the Navy off to refuel restock then escort the pirate boats back; it won't take long for word to get out amongst the freeloaders that they will do their 15K if they get on a boat.

Because pirates aren't exactly known for giving refunds to unhappy passengers.

It worked before and it will work again.

Once more I say loud and clear, Indonesian boats leaving Indonesia and crewed by Indonesians.

Just turn the bloody things around and send them back where they came from.

It's amazing how people with such simple minds manage to wipe their ass.
All this bullsh it about the lying little rodent did this and that, the whole world has  refugees turning up on their doors because of the actions of  assholes like Howard invading their countries, simple and dumb, what a combination. Roll Eyes
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Reply #62 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:00pm
 
Another way to stop the boats:

Cease all offshore processing.

Provide decent accommodation and encourage citizens, perhaps from service clubs, to mentor refugees, assisting them to learn the language and culture.

Set a definite period for processing, with a court order required if the period needs to exceeded. Make the decision open to one appeal.

Work through the UN to persuade countries like Sri Lanka to stop terrorising their own populations.

Work with UN, Interpol and Indonesians to track down and incarcerate people smugglers.

Simple, workable and, above all, humane.
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Reply #63 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:03pm
 
Three simple words: Temporary Protection Visas.

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Reply #64 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:04pm
 
How about convicting the Indonesian skippers for human endangerment. In Australia people aren't allowed to fit 10 people in a car and drive over the limit. Same thing.
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Reply #65 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:07pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Another way to stop the boats:

Cease all offshore processing.

Provide decent accommodation and encourage citizens, perhaps from service clubs, to mentor refugees, assisting them to learn the language and culture.

Set a definite period for processing, with a court order required if the period needs to exceeded. Make the decision open to one appeal.

Work through the UN to persuade countries like Sri Lanka to stop terrorising their own populations.

Work with UN, Interpol and Indonesians to track down and incarcerate people smugglers.

Simple, workable and, above all, humane.


Yes, yes. And while you're at it, world peace, a cure for cancer, abundant renewable energy and free drugs for all.
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Reply #66 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:07pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Another way to stop the boats:

Cease all offshore processing.

Provide decent accommodation and encourage citizens, perhaps from service clubs, to mentor refugees, assisting them to learn the language and culture.

Set a definite period for processing, with a court order required if the period needs to exceeded. Make the decision open to one appeal.

Work through the UN to persuade countries like Sri Lanka to stop terrorising their own populations.

Work with UN, Interpol and Indonesians to track down and incarcerate people smugglers.

Simple, workable and, above all, humane.



Yep! Pretty-much what I've said all along.

It's really the only acceptable solution.

I'm not interested in anything the Libs may come up with, nor am I happy with the Labor way.
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Reply #67 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:22pm
 
How to stop the boats.....

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Reply #68 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:37pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 5:17pm:
Big Dave wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 5:14pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 5:12pm:
Big Dave wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 5:10pm:
I know how to stop the boats- turn Australia into a toilet and nobody will want to come here. We are on the way to doing it.

A brilliant LW Conservative policy.
Sydney is turning into a toilet. I don't feel safe in much of it at all.

I hear Darwin is nice.  Smiley


No. Dunedin is much better.

We have this on reliable evidence.
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Reply #69 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:07pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Another way to stop the boats:

Cease all offshore processing.

Provide decent accommodation and encourage citizens, perhaps from service clubs, to mentor refugees, assisting them to learn the language and culture.

Set a definite period for processing, with a court order required if the period needs to exceeded. Make the decision open to one appeal.

Work through the UN to persuade countries like Sri Lanka to stop terrorising their own populations.

Work with UN, Interpol and Indonesians to track down and incarcerate people smugglers.

Simple, workable and, above all, humane.


Yes, yes. And while you're at it, world peace, a cure for cancer, abundant renewable energy and free drugs for all.


It's getting late. I'll start on that tomorrow. At the weekend I'll find the meaning of life.
Anyway, sounds like you're on the free drugs, already.
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Reply #70 - Jul 17th, 2013 at 11:27pm
 
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Reply #71 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 6:28am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Another way to stop the boats:

Cease all offshore processing.

Provide decent accommodation and encourage citizens, perhaps from service clubs, to mentor refugees, assisting them to learn the language and culture.

Set a definite period for processing, with a court order required if the period needs to exceeded. Make the decision open to one appeal.

Work through the UN to persuade countries like Sri Lanka to stop terrorising their own populations.

Work with UN, Interpol and Indonesians to track down and incarcerate people smugglers.

Simple, workable and, above all, humane.


Gillard already tried that - more people came. Bravo!  Roll Eyes
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Reply #72 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 10:55am
 
The course of action I put forward is hard-nosed I know, but it's in the expectation that none of the political parties will provide a solution at all to prevent what is currently managable at great cost turning into a flood which won't be managable.
As to the navy refusing to operate under these instructions, well we'd just have to look at outsourcing the job to private security.
As to other nations refusing to help our vessels or aircraft in distress, I don't know of that occurring elsewhere  and we are not invading anybody.
If Rudd looks to withdraw from the convention, as has been suggested, it's not going to physically stop the movement. Neither is some regional agreement which will be honoured in much the same way as free trade is, ie not at all.
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Reply #73 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 12:23pm
 
Consider asylum claims only for those who come directly from a territory where their life, physical security or physical freedom were threatened due to the reasons described in Article 1, A(2) of the 1951 Convention.

Provide asylum visas only, not permanent residency, when asylum is granted.


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Reply #74 - Jul 18th, 2013 at 12:26pm
 
Put Tony in budgie smugglers and Mirrabella in a bikini and put them on a boat out in the international waters.

Be enough for anyone to turn their boats back.
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