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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #15 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:44pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 8:56pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

But are you saying that a Lib opposition would also vote to keep a "carbon tax"

Really?!?!?!

Where did I say this?

Lie by inference.

STOP THE BOATS.

That's right , Karnal. It is indeed a lie by inference! Well spotted!
Maqqa is definitely not a LW conservative.

Could one say he’s a rusted-on, or does this only apply to the leftards?

Thoughts?

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #16 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:47pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

But are you saying that a Lib opposition would also vote to keep a "carbon tax"

Really?!?!?!

Where did I say this?

In the title of this thread:

Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise

The Greens can only block anything if the COALition voted that way too.

Or don't you understand how Parliament works?

I thought he was talking about the senate...

dont tell me bandt expects to get back in.. Grin

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #17 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:48pm

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

But are you saying that a Lib opposition would also vote to keep a "carbon tax"

Really?!?!?!

Where did I say this?

In the title of this thread:

Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise

The Greens can only block anything if the COALition voted that way too.

Or don't you understand how Parliament works?

I thought he was talking about the senate...

dont tell me bandt expects to get back in.. Grin

? Senate is part of parliament.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #18 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:52pm

Labor really has made a mess of this carbon tax announcement by KRudd. For years they've been passionately supporting the carbon tax and insisting it is not driving up the cost of living. Now they are prancing around saying how they're doing this to make life more affordable for everyone. Yet there will be no such legislation under a KRudd government prior to the election because KRudd doesn't have the numbers to pass it. Milne won't support it, so that policy of KRudd's is dead before it reaches parliament anyway. Besides all that, how can KRudd and Bowen expect us to take them seriously about their prediction of the floating price in Europe in 2014? The EU just voted to remove more than 900 carbon trading permits and in doing so, will drive up the price. We may well end up with a floating price in the EU next year close to what we're being slugged for here under the carbon tax!

This is vintage Labor - can't do a damn thing right.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #19 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:09pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

For years they've been passionately supporting the carbon tax and insisting it is not driving up the cost of living. Now they are prancing around saying how they're doing this to make life more affordable for everyone.

it's called moving with the times ... unlike you monkeys who want everything the way it was pre 2007, labor looks to the future.

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Reply #20 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:42pm

It's quite amusing that one of Julia Gillards statements about the carbon tax is that it "gave businesses certainty".

Only for a short time later the party to dump it as a policy....

Turns out it did affect cost of living and we can stop boats.

Who'd have thought Abbott was right all along eh?

Rudd has a new policy which he isn't going to implement and doesn't have the numbers after the election to get it passed.

Australia - a joke one day and laughable the next.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #21 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:45pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:42pm:

It's quite amusing that one of Julia Gillards statements about the carbon tax is that it "gave businesses certainty".

Only for a short time later the party to dump it as a policy....

Turns out it did affect cost of living and we can stop boats.

Who'd have thought Abbott was right all along eh?

Rudd has a new policy which he isn't going to implement and doesn't have the numbers after the election to get it passed.

Australia - a joke one day and laughable the next.

did you get A+ in Crystal ball reading or Tea leaf reading at that fancy uni of yours?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise Reply #22 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:48pm Both the Greens and Coalition have said they will block his climate change policies in the Senate either now or after the election. He does not have the ability. It's a new gimmick and policy on the run. Classic Rudd.
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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #23 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:51pm

I'll leave you with your chip on your shoulder about your lack of a decent education.
Nothing needed from me on that but it does explain a lot of your need to attack people.

Maybe go to uni now? It's never too late yo learn John.
I realize we had very very different opportunities in life but there's not a lot I can do on that.

Don't let it get to you so much. Just my advice to you.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #24 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:51pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:48pm:

Both the Greens and Coalition have said they will block his climate change policies in the Senate either now or after the election.

He does not have the ability.

It's a new gimmick and policy on the run.
Classic Rudd.

It's Rudd's fault that Tony is an obstructionist? Please. Do everyone a favour and come back with better reasoned comments.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #25 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:54pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

Labor really has made a mess of this carbon tax announcement by KRudd. For years they've been passionately supporting the carbon tax and insisting it is not driving up the cost of living. Now they are prancing around saying how they're doing this to make life more affordable for everyone. Yet there will be no such legislation under a KRudd government prior to the election because KRudd doesn't have the numbers to pass it. Milne won't support it, so that policy of KRudd's is dead before it reaches parliament anyway. Besides all that, how can KRudd and Bowen expect us to take them seriously about their prediction of the floating price in Europe in 2014? The EU just voted to remove more than 900 carbon trading permits and in doing so, will drive up the price. We may well end up with a floating price in the EU next year close to what we're being slugged for here under the carbon tax!

This is vintage Labor - can't do a damn thing right.

the carbon 'market' is artificial.
noone 'wants' to buy carbon at any price, there is essentially no volume going through.
I know how markets work. This is bogus.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise Reply #26 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:55pm Abbott has set his stand out. He is not going to support an ETS. How about concentrating on why the Greens won't support it?
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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #27 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:56pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:48pm:

Both the Greens and Coalition have said they will block his climate change policies in the Senate either now or after the election.

He does not have the ability.

It's a new gimmick and policy on the run.
Classic Rudd.

Rubbish, once Abbott loses the election he's gone, Turnbull will support the ETS.

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Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise
Reply #28 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:58pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:51pm:

I'll leave you with your chip on your shoulder about your lack of a decent education.
Nothing needed from me on that but it does explain a lot of your need to attack people.

Maybe go to uni now? It's never too late yo learn John.
I realize we had very very different opportunities in life but there's not a lot I can do on that.

Don't let it get to you so much. Just my advice to you.

you can stick your advise where the sun don't shine, I get better advice from a kids stuffed bear

and don't worry yourself about me, the day I let something you say worry me will be the day Elton John becomes pope ...

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Greens will block Rudd's ETS promise Reply #29 - Jul 17^th, 2013 at 11:09pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 17^th, 2013 at 10:55pm: Abbott has set his stand out. He is not going to support an ETS. How about concentrating on why the Greens won't support it? Greens are irrelevant. So you're telling me, that Tony has set his stand out, and is now back on the Carbon Tax wagon?
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