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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #150 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 5:39pm

Soren wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

Either you know nothing about Islam and simply defend Muslims regardless of what they believe in.

...and yet sink the slipper into Christians at every opportunity. Not exactly defending all religions equally as a principled stance from a pair committed to fairness and equality of religion.

Hmmmmmmm explains a lot. Grin

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Reply #151 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 6:53pm

freediver wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Like I already explained, I asked because he adopted such eerily similar deflectiont actics to the Muslims here.

Really? Sounds more like you wanted to label him and treat him the say way you treat all Muslims...badly!

You do love your bit of religious persecution don't you? Cheesy

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So basically we have Brian refusing to explain his inability to back up his own claim about Muslims not supporting Muhammed's standards, and Gandalf refusing to offer an opinion on what Brian posted.

Are Muslims now afraid to say they support Muhammed's example?

Perhaps you should ask why any consumers of opiate don't live up to their Sky Cat's standards? Christians who don't emulate Christ, Jews who don't emulate their god, and so on and so on.

Of course you won't because only Muslims deserve to be persecuted, right? Cheesy

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #152 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

Datalife wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 8^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

Either you know nothing about Islam and simply defend Muslims regardless of what they believe in.

...and yet sink the slipper into Christians at every opportunity. Not exactly defending all religions equally as a principled stance from a pair committed to fairness and equality of religion.

Hmmmmmmm explains a lot. Grin

Another who doesn't comprehend the message. The only times I've "sunk the slipper" into Christians is using their antics as a means of outing the bigotry of those who hate Muslims. They ignore what people of other religious persuasions get up to because they're Islamophobes. Cheesy

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #153 - Nov 8^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

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Really? Sounds more like you wanted to label him and treat him the say way you treat all Muslims...badly!

Is English your second language?

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Perhaps you should ask why any consumers of opiate don't live up to their Sky Cat's standards? Christians who don't emulate Christ, Jews who don't emulate their god, and so on and so on.

And Muslims who don't have sex with 9 year old girls and chop Jews heads off.... Kind of puts a different spin on "not living up to the standards" don't you think?

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Another who doesn't comprehend the message. The only times I've "sunk the slipper"

They were not actually talking about you.

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #155 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

It takes a very rare and special sort of retardation and moral flexibility to equate criticism of those who chop peoples heads off for the sin of not believing in a sky pixie, as religious persecution.

But we have it here, the Ross bros idiot floorshow. Rare retardation and moral flexibility writ large in bright colours.

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #156 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2013 at 7:13pm:

It's really quite simple Gandalf.

Step 1) Read what I actually posted.

Step 2) Respond to what I actually posted.

Step 3) Refrain from making poo up.

Step 1: what you *ACTUALLY* posted:

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Would you mind offering your opinion on the "anti-Muhammedan" Muslims that Brian keeps bringing up?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1374112476/131#131

Step 2: respond to what you actually posted:

my response: where does Brian "keep bringing up" these "anti-Muhammedan" muslims?

Please provide the exact quote.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #157 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

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Still, the fact remains that Muhammed oversaw the execution of prisoners of war, and this example has been used by Muslims throughout history to execute other prisoners of war.

Ummmm.... so they join the others with poor records for taking prisoners.

Like the USA and Australia (amongst others).

During WW2 the US had to offer its troops a bounty for prisoners taken alive to the rear lines for interrogation. In both WW1 and WW2 the German troops hated having Australian troops opposite them because they knew of the Australian's reluctance to take prisoners. German troops fought so hard against the Americans in Europe because they knew they were unlikely to survive the surrender process unless it was done en-masse.

But yeah, I agree. Muslim troops have a pretty shocking record when it comes to their behaviour in regard to captured troops.

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Reply #158 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

Here is one example Gandalf. I can also quote him giving examples of anti-Semtiic Jews and Christians against Jesus, if you are not sure what he is getting at.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 26^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 5:32pm:

I am condemning people who hold a womanising, mass murdering, raping, thieving, wife beating pedophile to be an eternal example to all mankind, and who hold his rules to be eternal rules that should be imposed on all mankind.

So, you're applying modern, 21st century, Western morality to a man who lived in in the 7th century, in Arabian society of the time?

Mmm, do you do the same thing when considering Saint Paul (after all, we know he existed, we don't know if Christ existed)?

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If you think he is just another medieval thug, I am happy to leave it at that.

I think he is a normal, 7th century Arab. In some ways better, in some ways worse as a representative of his society of the day. I don't attempt to judge him by standards other than those of his period. Only immature fools do otherwise. Are you such a fool?

Like I explained the first time round, I am applying modern 21st century western morality to modern, 21st century western people who want to bring back Muhammed's standards.

Do you think that "don't rape, murder and steal" is some kind of new fad?

Brian?

Yes? As long as you keep thinking all Muslims want to "bring back Muhammed's standards," FD, I think you have a problem with your bigoted viewpoint. Roll Eyes

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #159 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Here is one example Gandalf. I can also quote him giving examples of anti-Semtiic Jews and Christians against Jesus, if you are not sure what he is getting at.

Thats the best you can come up with? Questioning whether or not all muslims want to bring back Muhammad's standards is referring to "anti-Muhammedan" Muslims?

Why do you put "anti-Muhammedan" in inverted commas - as if those were Brian's exact words? He didn't say anything even remotely similar to that. This is quite despicable FD - even for you.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #160 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:41pm

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Why do you put "anti-Muhammedan" in inverted commas - as if those were Brian's exact words?

It's a common rhetorical technique Gandalf, particularly when inventing new terms. I had no intention of deceiving.

Now that I have quoted (again) what Brian actually posted (it's the bit in the quote box), can you bring yourself to offer an opinion on it?

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #161 - Nov 9^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:41pm:

Now that I have quoted (again) what Brian actually posted (it's the bit in the quote box), can you bring yourself to offer an opinion on it?

Sure, my opinion is that the term "anti-Muhammedan" muslim is a complete distortion of what Brian actually said. So how exactly do you want me to comment on something that wasn't even said?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #162 - Nov 10^th, 2013 at 10:39am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:41pm:

Now that I have quoted (again) what Brian actually posted (it's the bit in the quote box), can you bring yourself to offer an opinion on it?

Sure, my opinion is that the term "anti-Muhammedan" muslim is a complete distortion of what Brian actually said. So how exactly do you want me to comment on something that wasn't even said?

Oopps!

FD does seem to have quite a distorted viewpoint, doesn't he, Gandalf?

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Re: On Islamic historical sourcing
Reply #163 - Nov 10^th, 2013 at 12:10pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:41pm:

Now that I have quoted (again) what Brian actually posted (it's the bit in the quote box), can you bring yourself to offer an opinion on it?

Sure, my opinion is that the term "anti-Muhammedan" muslim is a complete distortion of what Brian actually said. So how exactly do you want me to comment on something that wasn't even said?

Hey look! A muslim deflecting!

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Reply #164 - Nov 10^th, 2013 at 12:55pm

freediver wrote on Nov 10^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2013 at 8:41pm:

Now that I have quoted (again) what Brian actually posted (it's the bit in the quote box), can you bring yourself to offer an opinion on it?

Sure, my opinion is that the term "anti-Muhammedan" muslim is a complete distortion of what Brian actually said. So how exactly do you want me to comment on something that wasn't even said?

Hey look! A muslim deflecting!

Hey, look! An Islamophobe bigot ignoring the point a Muslims is making! Roll Eyes

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