Australian Politics Forum - Executing prisoners of war

Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #255 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:47am Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:08pm: [....but it can't. my LORD calls for [my] separation from such as gandalf.] I thought your lord calls for you to love your enemies?
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Reply #256 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:13pm

Gandalf, do you think it makes sense to determine whether my first example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs is in fact an example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs before demanding I provide later, more obscure examples?

I am also keen to know what you mean by "cynically using wishy washy western liberal morals". Do you think that the people who criticise you for defending the slaughter of POWs actually support the slaughter of POWs?

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Reply #257 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 10:03pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Gandalf, do you think it makes sense to determine whether my first example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs is in fact an example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs before demanding I provide later, more obscure examples?

I am also keen to know what you mean by "cynically using wishy washy western liberal morals". Do you think that the people who criticise you for defending the slaughter of POWs actually support the slaughter of POWs?

It wasn't just the Banu Qurayza FD, but the Muhammadan slaughter of peaceful innocents throughout nearly the whole known world, who didn't want to roll over and be subdued by, and subjugated to, Muhammad's followers. Who instead wanted to protect their families, friends, neighbors and communities from conquest by the onslaught of Islam's imperialistic aggression throughout the Arabian peninsula in Muhammad's day, and all the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria in his wake.

".... according to one unidentified Arab, 'That army went through all places like a desolating storm.' sacking and capturing the city of Bordeaux, and then defeating the army of Duke Odo of Aquitaine at the Battle of the River Garonne — where the western chroniclers state, 'God alone knows the number of the slain'—[3] and Odo fled to Charles Martel, seeking help."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#daniel_1335...

Let alone the slavery and dhimmitude that followed, and remains in Islamic slave states, to this day.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm

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Re: Executing prisoners of war
Reply #258 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 11:18pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:47am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:08pm:

[....but it can't. my LORD calls for [my] separation from such as gandalf.]

I thought your lord calls for you to love your enemies?

Yes, he does.

Stratos,

Does Jesus command me to love the enemies of my God ?

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The Koran and moslems claim that Jesus was a moslem, and that Jesus was not crucified, and that Jesus did not die on the cross, but that Jesus was 'conveyed' to heaven by God [Allah] - without Jesus tasting death.

ISLAM and the Koran teach a 'strange' and different narrative about Jesus, a narrative which is in total conflict with the narrative about Jesus that is found in the New Testament account of Jesus life, ministry, death, and his resurrection.

Jesus, a Muslim, was Neither Killed, nor Crucified
http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesuscrucified.htm

Surah 4, Verses 157 & 158:
“and their saying : we killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, The messenger of Allah - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so; and those who disagree concerning it are full of doubts; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; For surely they killed him not; but Allah took him up unto Himself; and Allah is ever mighty, wise.”

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

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Stratos,

I invite moslems [to abandon their path], but i cannot, and should not [try to] compel them.

And i am not permitted to worship in, or to join myself with, a 'house' of idols [and iniquity].
[....nothing prevents me [i am free to choose], but i choose not to have any close association with deceivers who seek only to corrupt me, spiritually.]

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

Dictionary;
concord = = formal agreement; harmony. a treaty.

Stratos,

Should i commiserate with moslems, with the enemies of my God ?

Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

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Stratos,

If an EX-moslem ever tells me that he has denounced and renounced ISLAM, i will try again, to trust such a person.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Executing prisoners of war
Reply #259 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:05pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Gandalf, do you think it makes sense to determine whether my first example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs is in fact an example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs before demanding I provide later, more obscure examples?

I'll be accommodating here FD - just find me a single example of whatever you consider to be executing POWs by Muhammad's followers, in which they invoked the Qurayza example as justification.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #260 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:15pm Yadda wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 11:18pm: Should i commiserate with moslems, with the enemies of my God ? Why not, that's exactly what Jesus did? He asked God to forgive the people responsible for his horrific death?
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Reply #261 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:05pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Gandalf, do you think it makes sense to determine whether my first example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs is in fact an example of Muhammed slaughtering POWs before demanding I provide later, more obscure examples?

I'll be accommodating here FD - just find me a single example of whatever you consider to be executing POWs by Muhammad's followers, in which they invoked the Qurayza example as justification.

gandalf,

Every single recorded act of Mohammed, in his whole lifetime, is a justified example/action, which moslems are encouraged to imitate.

Allah himself, encourages moslems who seek to please him [Allah], to imitate the behaviour and conduct of Mohammed...

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. "
Koran 33.21

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Executing prisoners of war
Reply #262 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:42pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:15pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 11:18pm:

Should i commiserate with moslems, with the enemies of my God ?

Why not, that's exactly what Jesus did?

He asked God to forgive the people responsible for his horrific death?

Stratos,

If you believe that helping, defending [and 'standing with'], those who persecute and kill God's children is worthy of praise from God.

Go for it!

2 Chronicles 19:1
And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem.
2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Psalms 11:5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

1 Thessalonians 5:19
Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #263 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:37pm Yadda wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:42pm: If you believe that helping, defending [and 'standing with'], those who persecute and kill God's children is worthy of praise from God. Who said helping and defending? Not me and not the bible. So come on, do you love Muslims or not?
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Re: Executing prisoners of war
Reply #264 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:24pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:42pm:

If you believe that helping, defending [and 'standing with'], those who persecute and kill God's children is worthy of praise from God.

Who said helping and defending? Not me and not the bible.

So come on, do you love Muslims or not?

Not.

The practice of Islam also has its beauty
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1390683490/2#2

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #265 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm

Stratos,

I will be judged by my God.

Psalms 32:1
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Notwithstanding Psalms 32, i know that my God is just, so i will gladly be judged for my errors.

How can i complain, if my God is a true and fair Judge ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #266 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:44pm So you are deciding to not love Muslims despite the fact your faith explicitly tells you to love your enemies? Or do you not consider Muslims your enemies?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96413	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #267 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:56pm Yadda wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm: Stratos, I will be judged by my God. That you will, Y. Allah might have a say too
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Reply #268 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:57pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:44pm:

So you are deciding to not love Muslims despite the fact your faith explicitly tells you to love your enemies?

Or do you not consider Muslims your enemies?

Light, and, Darkness, Stratos.

And moslems are in the darkness.

And moslems, being moslems, are those that hate my God.

If they would come to the light, my God would cleanse them, and forgive them.

But they [moslems] refuse to come to the light.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

The practice of Islam also has its beauty
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1390683490/2#2

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96413	Re: Executing prisoners of war Reply #269 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:58pm Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:44pm: So you are deciding to not love Muslims despite the fact your faith explicitly tells you to love your enemies? Faith?
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