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Reply #105 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:42am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

Kevin O'Heaven needed a TAMPA to win this election...so he made his own Grin

Never underestimate the Ruddster .... he continuously makes Abbott look like a toddler in the political arena

Kevin will be hoping on riots and protests so he can prove that he is harder than Tony.
Tony should just quit politics now coz its all over for him Grin

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Reply #106 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:43am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:34am:

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:20am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm:

weren't you worried about stopping the boats? Now they are stopped ... you should be glad.
it's what you've been whinging for for ages isn't it?

I will await to see the implementation, but yes, if it stops the boats I will be pleased, nothing inconsistent in my approach.

Now about that muted response from the left, you don't get a whiff of hypocrisy? ffs on the drum they were complaining about mosquitos and jobs, nuffin to do with being resettled in a UNHCR signatory country and free from persecution or being returned to home. And the greens have displayed what they want, borders open for all, every one welcome.

Rudd has well and truly exposed the open secret of the left.

not sure if you realise it or not, but the Greens and labor are two very different parties. The real hypocrisy is in those crying out for a solution and now whinging about a possible solution.

Who has been whinging about this possible solution...apart from the left?

Maybe you can find me a forumite you think is of the right and post a quote of them whinging about it.

Me I reckon it is great, exposes the bullshit that existed all along. The left wont be happy unless we have open borders and welcome all into Australia. As mentioned elsewhere if PNG is so bad maybe they should ALL be coming over.

Too many mozzies...in PNG.

Hilarious. Cry more leftys. Grin

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #107 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 7:39am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

The day Australia lost its heart and soul.

What happened to my once beautiful country?

Just last month PNG was talking about reintroducing the death penalty, today they have grown a humanitarian heart? I don't think so.

Has anyone wondered how much this is costing, not only on a human level, but economically?

The day Australia lost its heart and soul.

Shame, Australia, shame!

that interesting pansi. I didnt know about the death sentencing.. I have heard they still head hunt in parts though..

I dont recall you being up in arms over Malaysia where they do have the death sentence and always have done..

surely it is against our human rights policy to return anyone to a country with a death penalty.. so wouldnt that be breaking our own rules...the mere sniff of a death penalty should make us back away.

personally we are bribing this very poor nation to do a job.. that I think could well be beyond them..

this is a desperate measure to win a few votes...looking at the riot that is reported on the threads.. these people are not your average asylum seekers..they are demanding and violent..,

Oh I was up in arms about Malaysia, any off shore process to be precise. I have always been against pushing our problems onto other nations, poorer nations at that. I have always said that we should process asylum seekers here and look after them here.

Human rights policy??? Do we have one? I think that was unoficially abolished a while back, when we started treating humans like maggot infested garbage. We should take our name off the UNHRC, then we can become like those other barbaric nations that are a law unto themselves. I hope Kevvy lose his seat on the United Nations Security Council over this.

Mannus Island is not coping right now, yet they want to expand it, that's too crazy.

It never ceases to amaze me that the very people who profess to be upstanding Christians can even contemplate doing this to fellow human beings.

I'm happy for the dangerous boat journeys to stop, something had to be done, but what a horrible way to go about it.

Rudd's making Julia Gillard look compassionate....and she was one evil woman.

Congratulations John Howard.....you've won!

Please change the National anthem.......we are not sharing any boundless plains.

I'm sure if I sailed into Iran they wouldn't share their boundless plains with me.

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #108 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:48am

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 7:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 4:23am:

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:27am:

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:31pm:

It's pretty funny seeing the cookie-cutter conservatives wailing "but what about the lurch to the right" and "what bout the morals" as if they wouldn't be giving this a standing ovation if it was the libs idea.

Legitimate questions, what about the morals? Does the frigging left have any? Where is the outrage?

Compare and contrast to the reaction if abbott had declared as an electoral platform that if elected no boat people would be resettled in Australia but instead all would be settled in PNG.

It exposes the duplicitous left and its crocodile tears big time and I am happy as f*ck it has.

I have no respect at all for hypocrites.

Its pretty stupid to be sure but well - its what you ppl wanted so be happy. Boats are stopped.

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n o they are not... its all words sob its so he can announce an election and keep a few votes..

PNG is a pretty violent country even our embassy is in a compound that is under full security..how this will work I wouldnt have a clue.. b ut it will be dangerous.. is that ok with the UN?

Yes he has. Whther png is a violent country or not thats where we are now sending refugees.

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Reply #109 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

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Reply #110 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:50am

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:34am:

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:20am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm:

weren't you worried about stopping the boats? Now they are stopped ... you should be glad.
it's what you've been whinging for for ages isn't it?

I will await to see the implementation, but yes, if it stops the boats I will be pleased, nothing inconsistent in my approach.

Now about that muted response from the left, you don't get a whiff of hypocrisy? ffs on the drum they were complaining about mosquitos and jobs, nuffin to do with being resettled in a UNHCR signatory country and free from persecution or being returned to home. And the greens have displayed what they want, borders open for all, every one welcome.

Rudd has well and truly exposed the open secret of the left.

not sure if you realise it or not, but the Greens and labor are two very different parties. The real hypocrisy is in those crying out for a solution and now whinging about a possible solution.

Who has been whinging about this possible solution...apart from the left?

Maybe you can find me a forumite you think is of the right and post a quote of them whinging about it.

Me I reckon it is great, exposes the bullshit that existed all along. The left wont be happy unless we have open borders and welcome all into Australia. As mentioned elsewhere if PNG is so bad maybe they should ALL be coming over.

Too many mozzies...in PNG.

Hilarious. Cry more leftys. Grin

yeah right, are you blind too? How many comments about moving to far to the right and selling out ..... it won't take you to long to find a few.

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Reply #111 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:55am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

maybe he doesn't believe in sticking to anyone's ideals of what's considered either left or right .... maybe he's more practical than that and is willing to try various solutions until he finds one that works. I'm not surprised that no matter what he does, people will always look for fault.

I mean, Who ever heard of a practical pm, right?

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Reply #113 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:48am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 7:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 4:23am:

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:27am:

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:31pm:

It's pretty funny seeing the cookie-cutter conservatives wailing "but what about the lurch to the right" and "what bout the morals" as if they wouldn't be giving this a standing ovation if it was the libs idea.

Legitimate questions, what about the morals? Does the frigging left have any? Where is the outrage?

Compare and contrast to the reaction if abbott had declared as an electoral platform that if elected no boat people would be resettled in Australia but instead all would be settled in PNG.

It exposes the duplicitous left and its crocodile tears big time and I am happy as f*ck it has.

I have no respect at all for hypocrites.

Its pretty stupid to be sure but well - its what you ppl wanted so be happy. Boats are stopped.

SOB

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n o they are not... its all words sob its so he can announce an election and keep a few votes..

PNG is a pretty violent country even our embassy is in a compound that is under full security..how this will work I wouldnt have a clue.. b ut it will be dangerous.. is that ok with the UN?

Yes he has. Whther png is a violent country or not thats where we are now sending refugees.

SOB

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so tent city has been constructed overnight then???

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #114 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

yeah right, are you blind too? How many comments about moving to far to the right and selling out ..... it won't take you to long to find a few.

LOL, you made the claim bozo, I aint doing your work. If you cant be bothered why should I be? Grin

it's not work, moron .... you can start with the first post .... the first of many ....

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #115 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am In 2007 - Rudd needed votes from the Greens so he adopted the policy of welcoming the illegals In 2013 - Rudd needed votes from the right so he adopts the policy of killing illegals
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Reply #116 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

In 2007 - Rudd needed votes from the Greens so he adopted the policy of welcoming the illegals

In 2013 - Rudd needed votes from the right so he adopts the policy of killing illegals

is that the only way one can get support from the right? You are an idiot Gumpy, a genuine, bona fide, dinky di IDIOT

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Reply #117 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

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Reply #118 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:07am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

In 2007 - Rudd needed votes from the Greens so he adopted the policy of welcoming the illegals

In 2013 - Rudd needed votes from the right so he adopts the policy of killing illegals

is that the only way one can get support from the right? You are an idiot Gumpy, a genuine, bona fide, dinky di IDIOT

The other way is to politically knife Gillard

And getting rid off the carbon tax

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Reply #119 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

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