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Reply #120 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:10am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

In 2007 - Rudd needed votes from the Greens so he adopted the policy of welcoming the illegals

In 2013 - Rudd needed votes from the right so he adopts the policy of killing illegals

is that the only way one can get support from the right? You are an idiot Gumpy, a genuine, bona fide, dinky di IDIOT

The other way is to politically knife Gillard

And getting rid off the carbon tax

so you support him now?

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Reply #121 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:13am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

maybe he doesn't believe in sticking to anyone's ideals of what's considered either left or right .... maybe he's more practical than that and is willing to try various solutions until he finds one that works. I'm not surprised that no matter what he does, people will always look for fault.

I mean, Who ever heard of a practical pm, right?

What positive practical thing has he ever DONE, rather than promise, in the asylum issue?

Please remind us.

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Reply #122 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:15am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

Grin

How and when did Abbott change his position on the boats??

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #123 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:18am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

Grin

Name 5 instances in the last 5 years with references (not opinions)

Then we'll show you Rudd's 10 instances in the last 5 years

Rudd is still a dud

All he's done now is given Abbott a free-kick with the illegals issue

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74360 Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #124 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:18am Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:13am: What positive practical thing has he ever DONE, rather than promise, in the asylum issue?Please remind us. start with yesterdays announcement ... and my comment wasn't limited to the asylum issue
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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #125 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:19am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

Who cares? It's all to suck in the voters to win the election and send phoney tony to the political graveyard, and Rudds just done it. Grin

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #126 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:19am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

Grin

How and when did Abbott change his position on the boats??

who mentioned the boats?

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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #127 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:19am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

In 2007 - Rudd needed votes from the Greens so he adopted the policy of welcoming the illegals

In 2013 - Rudd needed votes from the right so he adopts the policy of killing illegals

is that the only way one can get support from the right? You are an idiot Gumpy, a genuine, bona fide, dinky di IDIOT

The other way is to politically knife Gillard

And getting rid off the carbon tax

so you support him now?

I will vote for Labor this year because I want to see this country buggered up to the max

No other party can destroy Australian lives like the Labor party

GO RUDD!!!

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Reply #128 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:20am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:18am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

What positive practical thing has he ever DONE, rather than promise, in the asylum issue?Please remind us.

start with yesterdays announcement ... and my comment wasn't limited to the asylum issue

Do t mind swallow, John, he is just having a tanty because Abbott is now dead meat. Grin

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Reply #129 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:21am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

Grin

Name 5 instances in the last 5 years with references (not opinions)

Then we'll show you Rudd's 10 instances in the last 5 years

Rudd is still a dud

All he's done now is given Abbott a free-kick with the illegals issue

I should hope Rudd has more than Abbott. Rudd has actually had to implement his polices.. .... if they don't work, try something else ... Abbot on the other hand has never had to test any of his policies ... and he still chops and changes them.

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Reply #130 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:24am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

I should hope Rudd has more than Abbott. Rudd has actually had to implement his polices.. .... if they don't work, try something else ... Abbot on the other hand has never had to test any of his policies ... and he still chops and changes them.

So they are "his" policies Shocked

I thought he's no longer a tyrant

I thought he's changed

So you admit he's a dictator now and will never change

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Reply #131 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:27am

Datalife wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:27am:

... wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:31pm:

It's pretty funny seeing the cookie-cutter conservatives wailing "but what about the lurch to the right" and "what bout the morals" as if they wouldn't be giving this a standing ovation if it was the libs idea.

Legitimate questions, what about the morals? Does the frigging left have any? Where is the outrage?

Compare and contrast to the reaction if abbott had declared as an electoral platform that if elected no boat people would be resettled in Australia but instead all would be settled in PNG.

It exposes the duplicitous left and its crocodile tears big time and I am happy as f*ck it has.

I have no respect at all for hypocrites.

it is a delicious irony in watching the hypocritical left having to choose between their principles and supporting labor.

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Reply #133 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:31am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

I should hope Rudd has more than Abbott. Rudd has actually had to implement his polices.. .... if they don't work, try something else ... Abbot on the other hand has never had to test any of his policies ... and he still chops and changes them.

So they are "his" policies Shocked

I thought he's no longer a tyrant

I thought he's changed

So you admit he's a dictator now and will never change

IDIOT

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Reply #134 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:33am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Before the 2007 election, Rudd said he would send back boats of asylum seekers when safe. "You'd turn them back," he insisted.

After the election he did no such thing but instead dismantled the existing border laws and the off-shore detention centres which had stopped the boats. He claimed this to be compassionate.

After he lost the leadership he told the Labor party not to 'shift to the right' on the issue.
After numerous attempts, the Labor Party under Rudd now promises not only to send all boat arrivals to PNG but to settle them there as well- as if he could forcibly settle anyone in another country.

I am not surprised that as a narcissist he lurches opportunistically whichever way the wind blows. What I am surprised about is that anyone still believe him. That's incredible.

oh he is that alright....and he doesnt give a sh!t ass long as it means a vote...

its all about winning soren.. got nothing to do with being fair or caring.. as he pretends..

he is a conman... I will say he is one of the best conmen I have seen....

he actually leaves Frank Abagnale of Catch me if you Can fame in the shade.. he changes color as well as sides just with zip.. and they fall for it..

if abbott was as shallow as this guy.. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.. but this lot fall all over this guy..

they must like being conned thats all I can say.

you cannot seriously criticise Rudd for changing his position, whilst in the same statement praise Abbott who has changed positions more times than a brothel full of hookers .

Grin

abbotts position has always been the same. it is Rudd that has occupied every possible position on the issue and does so no merely for votes.

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