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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38580 Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #450 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 6:42pm Quote: do you really think I was being literal when I said it was straight out of the Liberal Handbook? Oh....so even when you put it in writing......it is a lie. Okay, I understand.
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Reply #451 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 6:52pm

red baron wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 6:31pm:

Aussie - try not to be so literal...do you really think I was being literal when I said it was straight out of the Liberal Handbook?

You may not realise it but it is hindering you, its must be hard posting with blinkers on.

You really have to try and stop thinking like a lawyer occasionally.

Do not worry about our friend, Aussie. This man is so tall in the Political Animal environment that he can, with mere words, change your vote. That's what lawyers do ....

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Reply #453 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 10:27pm

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(Assuming that to be true without a supporting link) the rest will follow when facilities are ready for them, including women and children.

The irony of this stupidity is twofold... one, Aussie apparently doesn't believe anything that doesn't have a link related to it, and secondly, that even though he lives in the "age of links" he doesn't know how to google a single fact. Grin

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Reply #454 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 2:00pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 1:41pm:

[quote author=red_baron18 link=1374218085/410#410 date=1374534142]Karnal -
If Abbott interferes with Rudd's policy if and when he gets into government, it will show him to be a complete hypocrite.

So the Coaltion are to be forever stuck with Labor policies then Karnal.
Not in this lifetime anyway.
The Coalition have had their border protection policy tested years ago.
It works.
And when Rudds policy flops, it will change.
Nothing hypocritical about that.
Just common sense.

And if Labor's policy works, Abbott going back to the Pacific Solution - with offshore processing costing, what, about 2 billion dollars a year? - will seem like utter pigheadedness and hypocracy.

After all, he blamed Rudd for ditching the Pacific Solution. He's now going to dismantle the PNG fix?

He'll whinge now, but he'll keep every last bit of Rudd's plan.

It'll work too. It has to. Who's going to come to Australia to be sent to New Guinea?

You need to get out more Karnal.
Rudd's plan is doomed.
It has more holes in it than a packet of swiss cheese.
We've had 400 country shoppers arrive since Rudds grand announcement on Friday.
There not stopping at all.
Only single adult men are going to PNG, the married males, wives and children are still coming here despite Rudd's lie last Friday.
We will now see more leaky boats filled with women and children, and males supposedly married to a female on the boat.
Right now Christmas island is near capacity.
Right now as I sit here typing this country shoppers are being flown out of Christmas island to the mainland to make room.
$2 billion dollars a year, wrong Karnal.
It's $2.2 billion right now and rising thanks to Rudd.
The last year of the Howard government was costing $100 million and falling only.
Why I hear you ask?
Because all the mainland detention centres with the exception of Villawood was closed, and a handful of people only were left on Nauru.
And closing down detention centres is what the Coalition has done before.
Labor only opens them up and builds more.
Another fine example of Rudd's policy on the run.

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Reply #455 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 2:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 3:51pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 3:48pm:

not all boat arrivals will go there.

not enough accommodation for all the illegal losers the lunatic left so love.

True Mr Cyclist.....they might end up anywhere in the Pacific according to the solution, but they will not get to Australia if they came by Achmed's boat as a refugee.

no other countries have signed up.
No other countrys wants violent depressed losers.
the ink is not dry in rudds dream document but it has hioles in it bigger than the titanic had.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #456 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:05pm Froggie I am loathe to defend anything that comes from Rudd but I think Labor said that the men would go immediately and the women and kids once the infrastructure was up to speed.
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Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea
Reply #458 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 2:53pm:

(Assuming that to be true without a supporting link) the rest will follow when facilities are ready for them, including women and children.

What facilities? Krudd announced a "fix" without thinking about it ... typical. There are NO extra facilities for detainees/reffos on PNG. Manus is FULL to the brim. The women and children (and husbands) will have to sleep on the boats? Or the beach? Until "facilities" can be arranged?

Get real. Krudd has run off at the mouth, again.

Look At Me. Look At Me. When he bums out at the Election, perhaps he can apply for a job on one of those Reality Shows ........ Grin

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Reply #459 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:22pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 3:41pm:

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They will never let refugges free in a dangerous place. It's written in the refugee convention. It's porky pie you can believe if you wish.

'They' (that's us by the way) will send anyone who comes via Achmed to PNG. If they get on his boat, then they have already decided they want to go to PNG. Their free choice, and not my problem.

First of all these left leaning limpdicks are not me. I wouldn't stuff the country up like they have been. They are a pack of water walking crusaders hell bent on saving the world. Secondly we'll see what Rudd really does. The Labor government has screwed everything up so far on people smuggling so you can excuse me if I believe the they'll keep screwing up.

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Reply #460 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:29pm

red baron wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:05pm:

Froggie I am loathe to defend anything that comes from Rudd but I think Labor said that the men would go immediately and the women and kids once the infrastructure was up to speed.

That's not what 'fearless leader' said live on TV last Friday during his grand policy announcement.
He said 'all arrivals' quite clearly.

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Reply #461 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

Big Dave wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 3:41pm:

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They will never let refugges free in a dangerous place. It's written in the refugee convention. It's porky pie you can believe if you wish.

'They' (that's us by the way) will send anyone who comes via Achmed to PNG. If they get on his boat, then they have already decided they want to go to PNG. Their free choice, and not my problem.

First of all these left leaning limpdicks are not me. I wouldn't stuff the country up like they have been. They are a pack of water walking crusaders hell bent on saving the world. Secondly we'll see what Rudd really does. The Labor government has screwed everything up so far on people smuggling so you can excuse me if I believe the they'll keep screwing up.

He has made it very clear, has he not? You get on Achmed's Boat, you are going to Manus Paradus.

What part of that do you not understand?

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Reply #462 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

He has made it very clear, has he not? You get on Achmed's Boat, you are going to Manus Paradus.

What part of that do you not understand?

Have you perused The Agreement? It is a 2-page piece of bullshit. Rudd is all talk.

There is NO ROOM left on Manus Island and less on PNG.

Apparently 3 boats have set out to prove Rudd is wrong. He is saving us from illegals you reckon, Aussie? Please advise when the boats stop. Thanks!

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Reply #463 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:49pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Big Dave wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 3:41pm:

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They will never let refugges free in a dangerous place. It's written in the refugee convention. It's porky pie you can believe if you wish.

'They' (that's us by the way) will send anyone who comes via Achmed to PNG. If they get on his boat, then they have already decided they want to go to PNG. Their free choice, and not my problem.

First of all these left leaning limpdicks are not me. I wouldn't stuff the country up like they have been. They are a pack of water walking crusaders hell bent on saving the world. Secondly we'll see what Rudd really does. The Labor government has screwed everything up so far on people smuggling so you can excuse me if I believe the they'll keep screwing up.

He has made it very clear, has he not? You get on Achmed's Boat, you are going to Manus Paradus.

What part of that do you not understand?

So the 400 that have arrived since Friday are all going to Manus island then?

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Reply #464 - Jul 24^th, 2013 at 6:54pm

Manus Island, look here comes the sun
Manus Island, it's a day for fun
I can't wait till I meet your sweet
senoritas

Kiss everyone
This is no time for siesta, this is time for fun

I can't wait till I meet your sweet senoritas
Kiss everyone
This is no time for siesta, this is time for fun
This is no time for siesta, this is time for fun

...this is no time for siesta...this is time for fun...

(With thanks to the late Elvis Presley) Wink

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