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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #75 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 8:23pm On no, alevine, contrare...I'm bloody well cheering that they are not coming into Australia...howling the freaking roof down. But I want the numbers, I want to know how much KRudd has sacrificed for doing a deal with the devil, because that's exactly what he has done.
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Reply #76 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 8:42pm

alevine...I'm not a hypocrite, I am over the moon happy about the PNG thing. I mean left's face it, it's the biggest cook up in eons. Kevvy has rolled the dice, bet the lefties are steaming over this one.

But clever though, very clever.

The only thing I want to know are the numbers, they are going to be gigantic.

Like all Australian Taxpayers, we need to know the numbers, the are going to be ballistic.

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Reply #77 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

All that will happen is that people smugglers will move part of their operations to Port Moresby. As in Indonesia, they will have no problem finding authorities to bribe.

Yes. That was my point.
A Labor Government doing this and some of its supporters prepared to support all in the vain desperation of winning at all costs.

Leave your morals at the door....

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Reply #78 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:48pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

Asylum seekers are fleeing with their lives. The Refugee Convention was written in the shadow of Auschwitz/Berkanau.

Many European Jews gladly settled in a third world nation - Palestine.

Yes, they did. First it was their homeland, second, they could build a nation in the desert.

What can asylum seekers build in the steamy jungles of PNG, among the headhunters?

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Reply #79 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:50pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

Asylum seekers are fleeing with their lives. The Refugee Convention was written in the shadow of Auschwitz/Berkanau.

Many European Jews gladly settled in a third world nation - Palestine.

Yes, they did. First it was their homeland, second, they could build a nation in the desert.

What can asylum seekers build in the steamy jungles of PNG, among the headhunters?

A Mosque?

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Reply #80 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:12pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

All that will happen is that people smugglers will move part of their operations to Port Moresby. As in Indonesia, they will have no problem finding authorities to bribe.

Yes. That was my point.
A Labor Government doing this and some of its supporters prepared to support all in the vain desperation of winning at all costs.

Leave your morals at the door....

If Abbot had announced this as an election policy can you imagine the weeping and wailing and lamentations?

Can you?

Instead a significant muted response, those crickets chirping are the sounds of lefty flexible outrage.

Effing hilarious from the hypocritical clowns.

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Reply #81 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm

Datalife wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

All that will happen is that people smugglers will move part of their operations to Port Moresby. As in Indonesia, they will have no problem finding authorities to bribe.

Yes. That was my point.
A Labor Government doing this and some of its supporters prepared to support all in the vain desperation of winning at all costs.

Leave your morals at the door....

If Abbot had announced this as an election policy can you imagine the weeping and wailing and lamentations?

Can you?

Instead a significant muted response, those crickets chirping are the sounds of lefty flexible outrage.

Effing hilarious from the hypocritical clowns.

weren't you worried about stopping the boats? Now they are stopped ... you should be glad.
it's what you've been whinging for for ages isn't it?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #82 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm Yep. It's somewhat shocking the support for the "Rush to the Right" Does show up the "none more gullible than the general public" quote.
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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74360 Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #83 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:29pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm: Yep. It's somewhat shocking the support for the "Rush to the Right" Does show up the "none more gullible than the general public" quote. aren't you the guy who claims to be non partisan? Now you are worried about left or right ideals?
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Reply #84 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:30pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

From an LNP government, this "solution" would be shameful. From a Labor government it is disgusting.

Asylum seekers will be dumped in a third world nation, rife with disease, lawlessness and corruption.

All that will happen is that people smugglers will move part of their operations to Port Moresby. As in Indonesia, they will have no problem finding authorities to bribe.

Yes. That was my point.
A Labor Government doing this and some of its supporters prepared to support all in the vain desperation of winning at all costs.

Leave your morals at the door....

Spare us the theatrics, jungle boy.

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Reply #85 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:51pm

red baron wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 8:23pm:

On no, alevine, contrare...I'm bloody well cheering that they are not coming into Australia...howling the freaking roof down.

But I want the numbers, I want to know how much KRudd has sacrificed for doing a deal with the devil, because that's exactly what he has done.

if he is going to use this in the election then he should tell us the truth.. PNG is a very poor country and they have a lot of unrest..whatever it is it will cost us thats for sure..btw

he hasnt stopped the BOATS yet...

and I am not sure the people smugglers give a damn where they end up...and why would they believe a Labor govt anyway they have done nothing but backflip and somersault since they started it all up again..

wait and see I wouldnt be getting my hopes up thats for sure.

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Reply #86 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:53pm

cods wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:51pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 8:23pm:

On no, alevine, contrare...I'm bloody well cheering that they are not coming into Australia...howling the freaking roof down.

But I want the numbers, I want to know how much KRudd has sacrificed for doing a deal with the devil, because that's exactly what he has done.

if he is going to use this in the election then he should tell us the truth.. PNG is a very poor country and they have a lot of unrest..whatever it is it will cost us thats for sure..btw

he hasnt stopped the BOATS yet...

and I am not sure the people smugglers give a damn where they end up...and why would they believe a Labor govt anyway they have done nothing but backflip and somersault since they started it all up again..

wait and see I wouldnt be getting my hopes up thats for sure.

he doesn't need to provide costing's until the election is called Grin

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Reply #87 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:28pm

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and I am not sure the people smugglers give a damn where they end up...

You are right. They don't care. But, their customers will. They will pay Achmed the Smuggler for a chance to get them to Australia in a leaking unseaworthy boat via the high seas, but you can bet they will not pay Achmed for the same pleasure cruise to get them to Manus Paradise. That is the point. That is what Rudd has achieved with the co-operation of PNG. He has done what everyone wanted done......nuke Achmed's business plan so that people stop taking the risk of drowning themselves and their kids because Achmed promised them 'Australia.' Now, if they take that expensive risk, they get Manus Paradise.

That sucks, hey?

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: RUDD Annunces - All boat arrivals go to New Guinea Reply #88 - Jul 19^th, 2013 at 11:31pm It's pretty funny seeing the cookie-cutter conservatives wailing "but what about the lurch to the right" and "what bout the morals" as if they wouldn't be giving this a standing ovation if it was the libs idea.
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Reply #89 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 12:20am

John Smith wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 10:26pm:

weren't you worried about stopping the boats? Now they are stopped ... you should be glad.
it's what you've been whinging for for ages isn't it?

I will await to see the implementation, but yes, if it stops the boats I will be pleased, nothing inconsistent in my approach.

Now about that muted response from the left, you don't get a whiff of hypocrisy? ffs on the drum they were complaining about mosquitos and jobs, nuffin to do with being resettled in a UNHCR signatory country and free from persecution or being returned to home. And the greens have displayed what they want, borders open for all, every one welcome.

Rudd has well and truly exposed the open secret of the left.

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