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PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in
Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:01pm

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http://smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Papua_New_Guinea

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Papua New Guinea because of the high levels of serious crime.
Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.
Large crowds and public gatherings should be avoided as they may turn violent.
Crime rates are high, particularly in the capital Port Moresby and in Lae, Mt Hagen and other parts of the Highland provinces.
Local authorities have advised of a heightened risk of armed robbery and attack at well-attended shopping centres in urban areas, including Port Moresby.
Since June 2011, there have been a number of violent incidents in parts of The Highlands, Oro Province, Central and Southern Bougainville, and Lae. You should exercise a high degree of caution when travelling in these areas and monitor local media reporting for information about the security situation.
Ethnic disputes continue to flare up around the country. Disputes can quickly escalate into violent clashes. Such clashes not only create danger within the immediate area but also promote a general atmosphere of lawlessness, with an associated increase in opportunistic crime.
Car-jacking is an ever-present threat, particularly in Port Moresby and Lae. Car doors should be locked with windows up at all times and caution should be taken when travelling after dark. In the evening or at night, we recommend you travel in a convoy.
There has been an increase in reported incidents of sexual assault, including gang rape, and foreigners have been targeted. These crimes are primarily opportunistic and occur without warning. We recommend you monitor your personal security, in both public and private surroundings, and ensure you have appropriate security measures in place.
Given the difficult terrain, extreme weather conditions and the condition of some remote airfields in PNG, flying in PNG carries greater safety risks than flying in Australia. On 13 October 2011, an Airlines PNG aircraft crashed near Madang, killing 28 people. Part of the Airlines PNG fleet was grounded on safety concerns but has since been cleared to fly following the implementation of additional safety measures.
Cholera is now considered as endemic in PNG. See the Health section for more information.
Wet season is from November to May. During the wet season flooding and landslides have resulted in deaths. Roads can become impassable. Check with local sources on the condition of roads and the likely impact of rain before travel.

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alp4eva Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88 Gender:	Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in Reply #1 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:03pm It will be ok. Even when the first rapes and murders of asylum seekers come pouring in, it won't be the ALPs fault. Nothing ever is.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in Reply #2 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:04pm Gang rapes aside - it's a BL00dy long and expensive way to come to die from cholera
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Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in
Reply #3 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:14pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:01pm:

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http://smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Papua_New_Guinea

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Papua New Guinea because of the high levels of serious crime.
Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.
Large crowds and public gatherings should be avoided as they may turn violent.
Crime rates are high, particularly in the capital Port Moresby and in Lae, Mt Hagen and other parts of the Highland provinces.
Local authorities have advised of a heightened risk of armed robbery and attack at well-attended shopping centres in urban areas, including Port Moresby.
Since June 2011, there have been a number of violent incidents in parts of The Highlands, Oro Province, Central and Southern Bougainville, and Lae. You should exercise a high degree of caution when travelling in these areas and monitor local media reporting for information about the security situation.
Ethnic disputes continue to flare up around the country. Disputes can quickly escalate into violent clashes. Such clashes not only create danger within the immediate area but also promote a general atmosphere of lawlessness, with an associated increase in opportunistic crime.
Car-jacking is an ever-present threat, particularly in Port Moresby and Lae. Car doors should be locked with windows up at all times and caution should be taken when travelling after dark. In the evening or at night, we recommend you travel in a convoy.
There has been an increase in reported incidents of sexual assault, including gang rape, and foreigners have been targeted. These crimes are primarily opportunistic and occur without warning. We recommend you monitor your personal security, in both public and private surroundings, and ensure you have appropriate security measures in place.
Given the difficult terrain, extreme weather conditions and the condition of some remote airfields in PNG, flying in PNG carries greater safety risks than flying in Australia. On 13 October 2011, an Airlines PNG aircraft crashed near Madang, killing 28 people. Part of the Airlines PNG fleet was grounded on safety concerns but has since been cleared to fly following the implementation of additional safety measures.
Cholera is now considered as endemic in PNG. See the Health section for more information.
Wet season is from November to May. During the wet season flooding and landslides have resulted in deaths. Roads can become impassable. Check with local sources on the condition of roads and the likely impact of rain before travel.

Wow, nearly sounds as bad as Sydney. Huh

I've been to PNG. Twice actually, and it's a bloody great place. Do you have to watch out for certain security alerts? Yep, just like Bali or Phuket. Roll Eyes

other than that its great, I could easily live there.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in Reply #4 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in Reply #5 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:20pm MOTR wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm: Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia. That is the port where they board the boat
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in Reply #6 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:24pm Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:20pm: MOTR wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm: Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia. That is the port where they board the boat Not all of them..sum come straight from Vietnam and Sri Lanka
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Re: PNG travel alert - for those who'll seek asylum in
Reply #7 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:20pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia.

That is the port where they board the boat

Not all of them..sum come straight from Vietnam and Sri Lanka

How many boats came STRAIGHT from Vietnam and Sri Lanka in the last 6 years?

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Reply #8 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:35pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:20pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia.

That is the port where they board the boat

Well if they don't fancy PNG, they can stay in Indonesia.

Saves the Australian navy having to tow back the boats.

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Reply #9 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:36pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:20pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Seems strange that Maqqa has no problem towing them back to Indonesia.

That is the port where they board the boat

Not all of them..sum come straight from Vietnam and Sri Lanka

How many boats came STRAIGHT from Vietnam and Sri Lanka in the last 6 years?

Look it up..Im not your mother.
Hey in case you forgot the Libs like Kevins idea so much that they are adopting Kevins PNG solution.
The Boats are Stopped Grin

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Reply #10 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:39pm

Maqqa, interesting that your travel alert bears some comparison to the one current about Bali, only missing the terrorist attacks. So its ok for them to get towed back to where all of the above is happening including terrorist attacks but not to a place where the likelihood of a terrosit attack is low. Youre on a loser here. This was a masterstroke by Rudd and he very well may have permanently solved the boat problem. The very last thing any of these economic migrants want is to live next door to or in a country full of illiterate tribal blacks.

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Reply #11 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

ian wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

Maqqa, interesting that your travel alert bears some comparison to the one current about Bali, only missing the terrorist attacks. So its ok for them to get towed back to where all of the above is happening including terrorist attacks but not to a place where the likelihood of a terrosit attack is low. Youre on a loser here. This was a masterstroke by Rudd and he very well may have permanently solved the boat problem. The very last thing any of these economic migrants want is to live next door to or in a country full of illiterate tribal blacks.

Bali is within Indonesia but it is not the port to which the departed from

The fact that they ARE already in Indonesia - they are responsible for the costs and choices they make

Rudd will cart them off to PNG ie he's now inherited the responsibility of these warnings

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Reply #12 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:53pm

Indonesia is Indonesia, travel warning relevant to all of Indonesia. Anyway, prediction, very few potential asylum seekers will take Rudds humanitarian option to resettle in PNG. If any. He has cut off the people smugglers business plan. This is why I will be voting ALP, Rudd is an intellectual giant compared to Abbott and the rest of the Libs.

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Reply #13 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:57pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:

ian wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

Maqqa, interesting that your travel alert bears some comparison to the one current about Bali, only missing the terrorist attacks. So its ok for them to get towed back to where all of the above is happening including terrorist attacks but not to a place where the likelihood of a terrosit attack is low. Youre on a loser here. This was a masterstroke by Rudd and he very well may have permanently solved the boat problem. The very last thing any of these economic migrants want is to live next door to or in a country full of illiterate tribal blacks.

Bali is within Indonesia but it is not the port to which the departed from

The fact that they ARE already in Indonesia - they are responsible for the costs and choices they make

Rudd will cart them off to PNG ie he's now inherited the responsibility of these warnings

So will the Libs coz they reckon the new policy is great..are you a reborn Greenie Maqqa Grin

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Reply #14 - Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:59pm

ian wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 3:53pm:

Indonesia is Indonesia, travel warning relevant to all of Indonesia. Anyway, prediction, very few potential asylum seekers will take Rudds humanitarian option to resettle in PNG. If any. He has cut off the people smugglers business plan. This is why I will be voting ALP, Rudd is an intellectual giant compared to Abbott and the rest of the Libs.

So you are prepared to give a good predict to Rudd but not to Abbott

Your intellectual giant is a runt compared to Abbott

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