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Reply #30 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:44pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Hey, Greens, how many refugees do they have in Texas, Arizona, New Maxico, Florida and California?

About ten million?

What’s the death penalty rate there?

How many of our boat refugees are australia planning on dumping over there?

Try keeping up.

How many are the UNHCR dumping there?

What does it mean when a person answer your question with another question?

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It's often a "fogging" technique to confound the questioner and buy time before responding to the original question. A classic self-assertiveness strategy; useful if used sparingly when being, for example, unduly pressured to answer a possibly intrusive or bullying question.

Do you think answering a question with a question is a good tactic?

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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38689 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #31 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:47pm Quote: How many of our boat refugees are australia planning on dumping over there? All who come by boat. But, if this solution works, there will be *none*, as there is no doubt PNG is not offered as sugar, rather, the complete opposite. This dis-incentive ought to work.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137404 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #32 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:49pm Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:47pm: FMD....not another death penalty thread. It's been done to death twice in the last month! Unfortunately, the retarded right have an insatiable bloodlust.
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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #33 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:47pm:

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How many of our boat refugees are australia planning on dumping over there?

All who come by boat.

But, if this solution works, there will be none, as there is no doubt PNG is not offered as sugar, rather, the complete opposite. This dis-incentive ought to work.

Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.)

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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38689 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #34 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:02pm Quote: Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.) Really? Did he? I watched it, and did not pick that up. Do you have a link?
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Reply #35 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:02pm:

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Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.)

Really? Did he? I watched it, and did not pick that up. Do you have a link?

Someone did ... reasonably sure it was burke . Will do a quick google

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #36 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:09pm

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Hey, Greens, how many refugees do they have in Texas, Arizona, New Maxico, Florida and California?

About ten million?

What’s the death penalty rate there?

How many of our boat refugees are australia planning on dumping over there?

Try keeping up.

How many are the UNHCR dumping there?

What does it mean when a person answer your question with another question?

Answer:
It's often a "fogging" technique to confound the questioner and buy time before responding to the original question. A classic self-assertiveness strategy; useful if used sparingly when being, for example, unduly pressured to answer a possibly intrusive or bullying question.

Do you think answering a question with a question is a good tactic?

Just wondering, Greens. I thought you might know.

To answer your question, Afghani, Iranian and Sri Lankan boat refugees are Afghani, Iranian and Sri Lankan. This might sound ever so cruel, but they don’t have any Australian residency status because they paid someone in Indonesia to drop them off here.

They now become our refugees when they apply to come and the UNHCR gives us the nod. We fly them in, show them around, and try to make them feel at home.

Really mean, I know, but it’s either that or pul their bodies out of the Timor Sea.

What does the death penalty even have to do with this? Are you saying Australia is violating someone’s human rights by not allowing them to commit a capital crime in another country and face their justice system?

Or what about jails? We’re sending refugees to Nauru and these Nauruians are locking them up for rioting.

What human rights obligation are we violating there? Habeus corpus? The Geneva Convention? Crimes against Humanity?

Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. I asked another question.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #37 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:11pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:02pm:

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Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.)

Really? Did he? I watched it, and did not pick that up. Do you have a link?

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3807520.htm

3 minutes 30 seconds in.
5 minutes in he states it will not stop the boats.

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Reply #38 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:17pm

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:02pm:

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Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.)

Really? Did he? I watched it, and did not pick that up. Do you have a link?

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3807520.htm

3 minutes 30 seconds in.
5 minutes in he states it will not stop the boats.

No, this is what he said:

TONY BURKE: "We have never said that we believe the announcement of this means there will be no more boats as of tomorrow."

"as of tomorrow"

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Reply #39 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

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Reply #41 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

The Indonesian coastal police must be spitting chips to see such a lucrative money-earner about to disappear into smoke.

Lord knows how much money the local Indonesian police have been making as a direct result of Guillard's ineptitude. Their extortion racket of milking the smugglers for a percentage of the profits is about to become history.

Rudd is definitely going to win this election.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #42 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:17pm:

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:02pm:

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Mr Burke said today on abc's insiders that this extremist path will not stop the boats. (labor is hoping to slow the boats going into the election so to con voters.)

Really? Did he? I watched it, and did not pick that up. Do you have a link?

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3807520.htm

3 minutes 30 seconds in.
5 minutes in he states it will not stop the boats.

No, this is what he said:

TONY BURKE: "We have never said that we believe the announcement of this means there will be no more boats as of tomorrow."

"as of tomorrow"

3 minutes in ... "Capacity will be increased as required" or something along those lines.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #43 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:19pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

$5 bet to the charity of the winners choice there will be more than three boats.
Interested?

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #44 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:12pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

It will not have stopped the boats.
I'd bet any money you'll see them keep coming.

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