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Reply #45 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:15pm

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

$5 bet to the charity of the winners choice there will be more than three boats.
Interested?

I donate £10 per week to NSPCC, I'll add another £10 next week if there's less than 3 boats.

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Reply #46 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:32pm

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:16am:

Papua New Guinea has just embraced the death penalty ... should Australia's refugees dumped in concentration camps there be exposed to potential execution?

If Australians accepts people being executed in PNG, then should we have the death penalty reinstated in Australia?

Should we be tough on crime in this country ... or bleeding heart lefties with moral compasses.

I don't think the agreement twixt Rudd and his PNG buddy mentions anything about concentration camps.

I do agree with the death penalty.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #47 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:32pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:12pm: It will not have stopped the boats. I'd bet any money you'll see them keep coming. Rudd stopping the boats is all a pipe-dream. It's all academic. There's no way the High Court will allow such a thing.
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #48 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:34pm why did we give PNG independence again anyway?
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Reply #49 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm

True Colours wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:34pm:

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:24pm:

woof woof wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:10pm:

You gotta do something terrible to get the death penalty, and yes I support it.

Yeah like being found guilty for a crime you didn't do.

If there is compelling evidence like the confession Jill Meagher's killer gave?

you would be surprised at just how UNcompelling a confession is. Never heard of a forced confession or a fake one? Plenty of stories to choose from!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #50 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:48pm

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

____ wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Hey, Greens, how many refugees do they have in Texas, Arizona, New Maxico, Florida and California?

About ten million?

What’s the death penalty rate there?

How many of our boat refugees are australia planning on dumping over there?

Try keeping up.

How many are the UNHCR dumping there?

What does it mean when a person answer your question with another question?

Answer:
It's often a "fogging" technique to confound the questioner and buy time before responding to the original question. A classic self-assertiveness strategy; useful if used sparingly when being, for example, unduly pressured to answer a possibly intrusive or bullying question.

Do you think answering a question with a question is a good tactic?

That's what you do all the time.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #51 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:47pm:

FMD....not another death penalty thread. It's been done to death twice in the last month!

Unfortunately, the retarded right have an insatiable bloodlust.

you might want to be careful with the use of the term 'right' in this regard. There are a lot of LEFT-WING countries that employ the DP. I don't think it is a fixture of any political ideology rather it is a moral failing from all sides.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #52 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:53pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:12pm:

[quote author=Karnal link=1374365799/39#39 date=1374391578]The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

You got it. I want that bloke out the front of the San Diego Conference Centre to get a bottle of decent wine. You up for it?

Next Friday, the boats stop - a bottle of Grange from the loser.

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Reply #53 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:26pm:

The boats will stop next week. They’ll have to.

No one’s coming here to be refused settlement in Australia for life. It would have to be the longest, most expensive route to New Guinea ever taken. You could get a round the world flight cheaper.

All to be refused entry - for good.

We’ll be lucky to get two or three more boats - at most.

Forget settling thousands of refugees in New Guinea and worrying about them murdering the locals. This idea’s just stopped the boats.

It will not have stopped the boats.
I'd bet any money you'll see them keep coming.

I think you might be right on this. The Indonesians themselves have said that the only effective deterrent to the boats coming is the clear and unequivocal determination of the government to oppose it. For 6 years we have not had this from Labor. and it would be pretty easy to determine that this latest change is for political purposes only and everyone knows it. I am sure there are many boat people who believe this is nothing more than an election policy that will be reneged on if Rudd wins. And how could anyone be sure that isn't precisely the case? It's not as if Rudd has a record of being persistent in the face of opposition in any policy whatsoever.

The boats will still come because they wont believe Rudd is sincere. Do you blame them?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #54 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:12pm:

It will not have stopped the boats.
I'd bet any money you'll see them keep coming.

Rudd stopping the boats is all a pipe-dream. It's all academic.

There's no way the High Court will allow such a thing.

the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95724 Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #55 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:57pm JC Denton wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:34pm: why did we give PNG independence again anyway? Oh, the PBs on the UN made us. We held off, mind you. We didn’t do it until 1973. That’s what we got from beating the Hun in WWI - his colony. White man’s burden, eh?
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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #56 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:19pm

cods wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:18am:

for gods sake take that picture off.. that is appalling..

That's what execution-homiciding of human beings in death chambers[outdoors in that case]is like.

Indonesia will be execution-shredding Aussies Chan and Sukumaran soon by the look of it...they'll be just as dead...dragged kicking and screaming from their cells by the Indonesian guards, taken to some remote location and slaughtered.

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Reply #57 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm:

... the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

Watch this space. The International Socialists who predominate in the High Court will find some way to thwart Rudd's plan.

The High Court is ostensibly an instrument of the justice system, but in reality it has long since become a bastion of Leftwing political agendas.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #58 - Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:50pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm:

... the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

Watch this space. The International Socialists who predominate in the High Court will find some way to thwart Rudd's plan.

The High Court is ostensibly an instrument of the justice system, but in reality it has long since become a bastion of Leftwing political agendas.

Yet they are made up mostly of LNP appointees.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #59 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:50pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm:

... the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

Watch this space. The International Socialists who predominate in the High Court will find some way to thwart Rudd's plan.

The High Court is ostensibly an instrument of the justice system, but in reality it has long since become a bastion of Leftwing political agendas.

Yet they are made up mostly of LNP appointees.

unlike the American supreme court, our high court justices tend to rule based on law and nothing but the law.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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