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Reply #60 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:14pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:56pm:

unlike the American supreme court, our high court justices tend to rule based on law and nothing but the law.

Urban myth. It's not true.

Decisions from the High Court are often reported as 'The appeal was defeated by a vote of 3-to-2 ...'

Etc.

Political ideology is veiled behind a thin veneer of legal orthodoxy.

The High Court is packed with leftwingers.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #61 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:21pm Yes. Australians should be executed. On Sundays... in public parks.... free admission.... family picnic spots around the gallows/firing range/electric chair etc.... kebab vans... face painting for the kiddies.
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Reply #62 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:50pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm:

... the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

Watch this space. The International Socialists who predominate in the High Court will find some way to thwart Rudd's plan.

The High Court is ostensibly an instrument of the justice system, but in reality it has long since become a bastion of Leftwing political agendas.

Yet they are made up mostly of LNP appointees.

unlike the American supreme court, our high court justices tend to rule based on law and nothing but the law.

The US Supreme Court rules based on law.

To state otherwise is scaremongering bullsh1t.

They have beliefs sure, but they rule on the statutory reading of the law.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104621 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should Australians Be Executed Reply #64 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:26pm Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:21pm: Yes. Australians should be executed. On Sundays... in public parks.... free admission.... family picnic spots around the gallows/firing range/electric chair etc.... kebab vans... face painting for the kiddies. Yes - just like the movie:
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Reply #65 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:27pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:24pm:

The US Supreme Court rules based on law.

To state otherwise is scaremongering bullsh1t.

They have beliefs sure, but they rule on the statutory reading of the law.

Window-dressing, Andrei. They allow for interpretations of the law, and that's when it all unravels and becomes a matter of idiosyncrasy.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #66 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:26pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:21pm:

Yes. Australians should be executed.

On Sundays... in public parks.... free admission.... family picnic spots around the gallows/firing range/electric chair etc.... kebab vans... face painting for the kiddies.

Yes - just like the movie:

What took you so long?

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Reply #67 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:27pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:50pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:56pm:

... the High Court doesn't have to 'allow it'. as long as it is in agreement with current law they have no say. And in fact, they have no say even if it were illegal unless someone launches an action to determine thus.

Watch this space. The International Socialists who predominate in the High Court will find some way to thwart Rudd's plan.

The High Court is ostensibly an instrument of the justice system, but in reality it has long since become a bastion of Leftwing political agendas.

Yet they are made up mostly of LNP appointees.

unlike the American supreme court, our high court justices tend to rule based on law and nothing but the law.

The US Supreme Court rules based on law.

To state otherwise is scaremongering bullsh1t.

They have beliefs sure, but they rule on the statutory reading of the law.

that is naïve. the law is not black and white and never will be. in these cases it is up to the Supreme court (and High Court) to 'interpret' it. This is where their beleifs and political ideology comes into play.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #68 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:30pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:26pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:21pm:

Yes. Australians should be executed.

On Sundays... in public parks.... free admission.... family picnic spots around the gallows/firing range/electric chair etc.... kebab vans... face painting for the kiddies.

Yes - just like the movie:

What took you so long?

I hope you have watched that movie Aussie? Grin

They knew what to do in the wild west.

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Reply #69 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:24pm:

The US Supreme Court rules based on law.

To state otherwise is scaremongering bullsh1t.

They have beliefs sure, but they rule on the statutory reading of the law.

Window-dressing, Andrei. They allow for interpretations of the law, and that's when it all unravels and becomes a matter of idiosyncrasy.

All courts rule on interpretations of the law.
That's why you get appeals and overturning of verdicts.

The US Supreme Court recently voted 5-4 in favour of the Patient Care Act (ObamaCare) despite the fact the majority of Judges have been appointed by Republican Presidents.

In fact Justice Roberts voted FOR Obamacare as being within Congress rights to approve - Roberts was appointed by George W Bush.
Goes to show they hold their views based on their interpretation - not political leanings.

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Reply #70 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:44pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:31pm:

Goes to show they hold their views based on their interpretation - not political leanings.

You're as stubborn as I am.

You're being a mule about this. You know damn well that 'interpretation' opens the door for decisions based upon personal bias of a moral and/or political nature.

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Reply #71 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:50pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:44pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:31pm:

Goes to show they hold their views based on their interpretation - not political leanings.

You're as stubborn as I am.

You're being a mule about this. You know damn well that 'interpretation' opens the door for decisions based upon personal bias of a moral and/or political nature.

Which is the case for any court in any democratic country.

The US Supreme Court rules on interpretation of law as much as the High Court of Australia.

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #72 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:02pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:44pm:

You know damn well that 'interpretation' opens the door for decisions based upon personal bias of a moral and/or political nature.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Which is the case for any court in any democratic country.

At last we are in agreement!

That wasn't so hard, was it? Tongue

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Re: Should Australians Be Executed
Reply #73 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:14pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:21pm:

Yes. Australians should be executed.

On Sundays... in public parks.... free admission.... family picnic spots around the gallows/firing range/electric chair etc.... kebab vans... face painting for the kiddies.

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Dream on.
bambu-ilk had the premeditated, cold-blooded killing of human beings by the State banned.

That's abolished...bye bye noose etc.
And execution-homicides by the State ain't coming back.

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