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Reply #75 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:05am

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:07am:

ua New Guinea villagers the new refugee victims
PETER MICHAEL IN PORT MORESBY THE COURIER-MAIL

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Chiildren at the Hanuabada stilt village in Port Moresby. Picture: Brian Cassey Source: CourierMail
GIDEON Mahiro is one of about 3000 whose home is in line to be bulldozed to make way for a new refugee processing centre.

His shanty town, opposite the airport in Port Moresby, has been identified as a potential new site where genuine asylum seekers would be resettled in Papua New Guinea under the deal.

The 47-year-old electrician, a father-of-seven, sees brutal irony in his family being dispossessed of their tiny shack to make way for boatpeople out of Manus Island detention centre.

MORE: Rudd asylum-seeker deal half-baked

"It is a big headache," said Mr Mahiro, who trained for his trade at TAFE in Queensland.

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Children at a squatter settlement next to Jackson Airport, Port Moresby. The site that has been earmarked for a refugee processing centre. About 4000 poeple live on the site and may face eviction from their homes. Picture: Brian Cassey
"If the government wants to bulldoze us out of our homes, they can do it without a humanitarian thought," said Mr Mahiro, of the ATS settlement.

"They will send armed police in to forcibly evict us, they will raze this entire township to the ground, and me and my children, and thousands of others will be left without anywhere to live."

He paints a bleak picture of law and order, high unemployment and a desperate housing shortages in the nation's capital.

"I'm educated, middle-class, but this is a very expensive, dangerous, and difficult place to make a living.

"I think the PNG government has taken the big carrot of billions in aid funding, hoping the boatpeople will not come."

charity doesnt begin at home apparently!

this is what a lot of us have been saying cod.... 100% spot on

but apparently, if you write in big pink writing, you can start calling everyone a liar on this issue...

should I hold my breath awaiting an apology??

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Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink
Reply #76 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:28am

[quote author=bambu link=1374369630/64#64 date=1374406796

Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG

We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life.

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Sorry Bambi, a valid visa from PNG does not entitle anyone to settle in Oz, they would not be classed as a refugee you idiot!!

Not sure where you get the fact that we will pay for their welfare for life Mmm now lets see was it Alan Jones or Bud Abbott

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14210 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink Reply #77 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:47am True Blue... wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:05am: should I hold my breath ... ?? Please, DO ( ... or one BETTER)
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Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink
Reply #78 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:41pm

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:22pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:09pm:

And neither, bozo, do you. But despite your ignorance you are still happy to declare that those resettled will not be able to access benefits.

you'll have no problem putting up my said comment then, will you?

Here ya go bozo,

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As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed?

and again

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no, the claim was that they cannot claim .... and they can't.

And you were defending this

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A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION

If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER

I don't assume nothing, I don't know what the policy includes but you seem pretty smacking sure it doesn't include oz government benefits.

Time will tell. You may be right. I don't know, and if you were not so much of an idiot you would admit you don't know either.

In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW,

as the law currently stands

.... are you dam chinese or something?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink Reply #79 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:58pm Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:22am: Hard working Australians who worked all their lives paying taxes to now fund the lifestyle of these asylum seekers in PNG for the rest of their lives bump
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Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink
Reply #80 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:41pm:

In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW,

as the law currently stands

.... are you dam chinese or something?

LOL, I am not talking about NOW ya peanut. I have been consistently saying I am awaiting details to see what Rudds PNG resettlement policy will consist of in the FUTURE.

You know that policy that was announced just the other day and we are still waiting the fine print?

It may be that they do not get benefits. I simple do not know and neither, my idiot friend do you.

I really cannot make it any clearer than that.

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Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink
Reply #81 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:05pm

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:41pm:

In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW,

as the law currently stands

.... are you dam chinese or something?

LOL, I am not talking about NOW ya peanut. I have been consistently saying I am awaiting details to see what Rudds PNG resettlement policy will consist of in the FUTURE.

You know that policy that was announced just the other day and we are still waiting the fine print?

It may be that they do not get benefits. I simple do not know and neither, my idiot friend do you.

I really cannot make it any clearer than that.

I don't know if you are thick or just plain stupid ... I have always said the details are yet to be released, but as it stands NOW the comment was correct ... they cannot get the dole.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink
Reply #82 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:23pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:05pm:

I don't know if you are thick or just plain stupid ... I have always said the details are yet to be released, but as it stands NOW the comment was correct ... they cannot get the dole.

We appear to be in furious agreement then, so I have no clue why you dipped your oar in here which kicked the whole thing off.

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:45pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:36pm:

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Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives"

A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION

If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER

( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would")

You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details?

If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much.

As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record. Belay that, he has a shocking record.

a reference for what? the fact that it's a baseless assumption? ... you just said we need to wait for the details ... or do you think Hockey got all the details ahead of everyone else?

No dimwit, a reference to the assertion that those being resettled in PNG having no access to medicare or centrelink.

I cannot believe I just had to explain that to you. You are dumber than I initially thought.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138472 Gender:	Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink Reply #84 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:48pm Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm: If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings ...
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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink Reply #85 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:54pm HAHAHA!!!! WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE PICS FOR EVERY OCCASION?????
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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38811 Gender:	Re: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink Reply #86 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:57pm Alinta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:54pm: HAHAHA!!!! WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE PICS FOR EVERY OCCASION????? Dunno about Mr Peccarry, but I start at Google Image (bung in what you want in the search block.....eg 'pissing myself laughing gif') and see what pops up.
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