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Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame
Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:51am

"The announcement of the Australian Government to no longer process displaced asylum seekers in its own territory and to send them to Papua New Guinea is an incredibly disappointing turn of events.

Amnesty has at its disposal numerous recent reports from PNG and we continue to note poor treatment of human rights particularly women and vulnerable people, which the Government is unable to prevent.

Australia - a first world country - choosing to literally dump thousands of desperate and vulnerable people onto a country, which despite being a signatory to the UN Human Rights Convention, has chosen to opt out of signficant articles on freedom of movement, social housing provision, employment rights and paths to permanent residence - is one which has all the hallmarks of pandering to short term domestic public opinion.

This new policy of Australia shows scant regard for the plight of some of the most desperate people in this part of the world and complete contempt for its international obligations both legally and morally.

This day should be regarded as the one in which Australia decided to turn its back on desperate people, closed the door and threw away with the key.

Amnesty International unreservedly condemns this decision."

Statement - Amnesty International - Australia

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Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am Yeah well . . . . amnesty international . . . . SOB
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Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:58am

We went past this point years ago, Andrei.

Pity you didn't speak up earlier.

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Amnesty International's latest report card on global human rights takes aim at Australia's treatment of asylum seekers.

Australia is failing to live up to its promise to protect some of the world's most vulnerable people, Amnesty International says in its latest report card on global human rights.

Amnesty's annual State of the World's Human Rights report takes aim at Australia's treatment of asylum seekers.

Amnesty Australia national director Claire Mallinson says the Australian government is one of several around the globe more interested in using refugees for political point-scoring than protecting them.

"The appalling treatment of asylum seekers - the majority of whom have fled conflict or post-conflict emergencies in Iran, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Iraq - now find themselves languishing in limbo in remote islands living the out-of-sight out-of-mind nightmare that the current government has introduced, re-enacting the devastating policies of the past," Ms Mallinson said in a statement accompanying the report.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:58am MOTR - With what part of Amnesty's statement do you disagree?
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Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

How is that "playing" the good samaritan?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:02pm Amnesty International already marked us as shameful when they popped over and inspected our Aboriginal settlements. Shameful they said. The UN said it too. Freaking Hilary Clinton condemned our attitude toward boat people and she's the most evil woman on earth.
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Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:04pm

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This day should be regarded as the one in which Australia decided to turn its back on desperate people, closed the door and threw away with the key.

This point, Andrei. We will continue to accept refugees into Australia. If this plan works Rudd has promised to increase the number of refugees we accept into Australia.

We have closed the door to asylum seekers who arrive by boat.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:04pm Everybody apart from the terminally Labor realise that this is a sham move by Rudd. If he can get the election over with before it all turns to sh1t, he wins the election and he can backflip or pay out later. If he loses the election its somebody else's problem.
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Reply #9 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:05pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

How is that "playing" the good samaritan?

This is unlikely to happen, Andrei.

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Reply #10 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:07pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

How is that "playing" the good samaritan?

This is unlikely to happen, Andrei.

That is EXACTLY what the plan suggests will happen.
Those who arrive by boat, who are found to be refugees, will be resettled in PNG.

A country which Amnesty says has significant human rights abuses, has opted out on significant provisions of treatment of refugees and is a third world nation.

If you dont see this as a short term electioneering stunt then you are blind as a bat.

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #11 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:15pm AI and the UN. As usual laying shame everywhere but the countries of origin of the refugees.
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Reply #12 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:16pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:07pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

How is that "playing" the good samaritan?

This is unlikely to happen, Andrei.

That is EXACTLY what the plan suggests will happen.
Those who arrive by boat, who are found to be refugees, will be resettled in PNG.

A country which Amnesty says has significant human rights abuses, has opted out on significant provisions of treatment of refugees and is a third world nation.

If you dont see this as a short term electioneering stunt then you are blind as a bat.

Which refugees, Andrei?

As Aussie has asked elsewhere.

Which refugees are going to "pay Achmed about $8000 per head to jump on his leaky unseaworthy pile of junk to risk drowning themself and their kids on the high seas to resettle in beautiful downtown equatorial tropical Manus Paradus?"

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Reply #13 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:07pm:

MOTR wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

How is that "playing" the good samaritan?

This is unlikely to happen, Andrei.

That is EXACTLY what the plan suggests will happen.
Those who arrive by boat, who are found to be refugees, will be resettled in PNG.

A country which Amnesty says has significant human rights abuses, has opted out on significant provisions of treatment of refugees and is a third world nation.

If you dont see this as a short term electioneering stunt then you are blind as a bat.

How is it any different from abbotts plan?

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Reply #14 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:19pm

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"The announcement of the Australian Government to no longer process displaced asylum seekers in its own territory and to send them to Papua New Guinea is an incredibly disappointing turn of events.

Yeah, 'cause they say so, it must be disappointing. Got it.

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Amnesty has at its disposal numerous recent reports from PNG and we continue to note poor treatment of human rights particularly women and vulnerable people, which the Government is unable to prevent.

Now, there's a revelation!

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Australia - a first world country - choosing to literally dump thousands of desperate and vulnerable people onto a country, which despite being a signatory to the UN Human Rights Convention, has chosen to opt out of signficant articles on freedom of movement, social housing provision, employment rights and paths to permanent residence - is one which has all the hallmarks of pandering to short term domestic public opinion.

Thousands hey. What thousands, Andrei? Lucky if there will be a handful.

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This new policy of Australia shows scant regard for the plight of some of the most desperate people in this part of the world and complete contempt for its international obligations both legally and morally.

Now there, right there is the greatest piece of sanctimonious garbage ever to come out of this Mob. Would they rather see these 'desperate' people get onto Achmed's boat to drown at sea and have their skulls crushed on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

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This day should be regarded as the one in which Australia decided to turn its back on desperate people, closed the door and threw away with the key.

Emotive clap trap! It stops Achmed in his tracks and you'd reckon this Mob would be applauding that. It says a great deal that they have totally ignored the fact that the sole intent of this solution is to put Achmed out of business. Instead, they play violins.

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Amnesty International unreservedly condemns this decision.

Heck, if they had not unreservedly condemned it, I'd never sleep again, Gee, I'm so glad of their vigilance.

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