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Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame
Reply #45 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:48pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

All smoke and mirrors there my friend.
I share the concern about dumping thousands of people on a country which is already impoverished and has its own human rights issues as it is.

So you're prepared to take them into your house?

Funny how we've switched sides, isn't it?

"humanitarians" like our mate Buzz now support the placing of refugees on a third world nation with human rights issues.

This is about electioneering and it stinks to high hell.

From the "humanitarian" view - I don't "support" it in the SLIGHTEST
But since the matter of refugees was so SHAMELESSLY turned into a LEFT vs RIGHT issue by John "we will decide who comes here" Howard - we aren't given too many options

... and I agree, it DOES "stink to high hell"

Under THIS plan there will be REAL processing centres - that are not just a front for prisons, offering NO HOPE of anything but a life behind razor wire - such as the "Pacific Solution"

A refugee, once processed as genuine - will be a FREE MAN, albeit, not in the best choice of country

One FREE of car bombs, white vans - and the Taliban

And an Australia - FREE of Tony Abbott

( ... and you don't think refugees are fleeing from FAR WORSE "human rights issues ?)

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Reply #46 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:53pm

Sending refugees to PNG has some similarities to history:

Madagascar Plan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

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The Madagascar Plan was a proposal of the Nazi government of Germany to relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar. Franz Rademacher, head of the Jewish Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the Nazi government, proposed the idea in June 1940, shortly before France's defeat in the Battle of France. The proposal called for the handing over of Madagascar, then a French colony, to Germany as part of the French surrender terms.

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Reply #47 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:53pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:51am:

"The announcement of the Australian Government to no longer process displaced asylum seekers in its own territory and to send them to Papua New Guinea is an incredibly disappointing turn of events.

Amnesty has at its disposal numerous recent reports from PNG and we continue to note poor treatment of human rights particularly women and vulnerable people, which the Government is unable to prevent.

Australia - a first world country - choosing to literally dump thousands of desperate and vulnerable people onto a country, which despite being a signatory to the UN Human Rights Convention, has chosen to opt out of signficant articles on freedom of movement, social housing provision, employment rights and paths to permanent residence - is one which has all the hallmarks of pandering to short term domestic public opinion.

This new policy of Australia shows scant regard for the plight of some of the most desperate people in this part of the world and complete contempt for its international obligations both legally and morally.

This day should be regarded as the one in which Australia decided to turn its back on desperate people, closed the door and threw away with the key.

Amnesty International unreservedly condemns this decision."

Statement - Amnesty International - Australia

Smell the fear from this filthy hypocrite who says refugees are nothing but shoe shiners. Typical rightard, no wonder you are despised by most every day Australians.

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Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame
Reply #48 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Sending refugees to PNG has some similarities to history:

Madagascar Plan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

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The Madagascar Plan was a proposal of the Nazi government of Germany to relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar.

If only the UN had thought of this, in the creation of a "Jewish state"
In retrospect, it makes for FAR more common sense ( ... and less M.E. conflict and wars) than to plonk it in the middle of the Islamic and Arab world

( ... can I expect a flood of anti-Semite screams, now - for mentioning Israeli political history ?)

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Reply #49 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:29pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

Seem to recall andrei using every one of these at various times.....
Good call, Karnal.

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Reply #50 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:30pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

Seem to recall andrei using every one of these at various times.....
Good call, Karnal.

Wink

Andrei has taken a massive turn to the left so i can only assume that he's voting Green at the election

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #51 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:32pm what has the UN said???? not word I guess nothing to do with them is it? stand and watch..
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Reply #52 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:34pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

Seem to recall andrei using every one of these at various times.....
Good call, Karnal.

Wink

Andrei has taken a massive turn to the left so i can only assume that he's voting Green at the election

Only if he re-registers to vote in Aus and sends his blank postal vote to you to fill in....

Cheesy

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Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame
Reply #53 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:37pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:34pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 11:57am:

Rubbish people, Andrei. Shoeshiners. Goatherders. People you'd rather see drown than come to Australia. Remember? "These are not our people".

Which is strange because you don't have anything to do with Australia. You live in the US, you vote in the UK, and you identify yourself as a Boer.

Too true.

Are you going to take my bet that the boats stop by Friday, or are you going to continue to play the good Samaritan?

Seem to recall andrei using every one of these at various times.....
Good call, Karnal.

Wink

Andrei has taken a massive turn to the left so i can only assume that he's voting Green at the election

Only if he re-registers to vote in Aus and sends his blank postal vote to you to fill in....

Cheesy

Im always happy to fill in anyone's postal vote..I consider it a public service Cheesy

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #54 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:38pm It's times like this that I wish I had saved a lot of the posts from Yahoo to a hard drive.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #55 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:42pm Im trying to forget my time on Yahoo...it all got just a tad dysfunctional
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Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame
Reply #56 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:42pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:38pm:

It's times like this that I wish I had saved a lot of the posts from Yahoo to a hard drive.

Wink

The second line of my signature thingy was copy and pasted from one of andrei's posts.

andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #57 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:54pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 1:28pm:

Andrei,
they don't go to new cities - they come here to Melbourne or Sydney.

China has 1.4 billion people.

And you think they should take more?

why not? your argument regarding CO2 emissions has always been about EVERYONE doing their bit and so China should do the same. After all there are hundres of millions of chinese living elsewhere so how about taking 50 million back?

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Reply #58 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:58pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Sending refugees to PNG has some similarities to history:

Madagascar Plan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

Quote:

The Madagascar Plan was a proposal of the Nazi government of Germany to relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar.

If only the UN had thought of this, in the creation of a "Jewish state"
In retrospect, it makes for FAR more common sense ( ... and less M.E. conflict and wars) than to plonk it in the middle of the Islamic and Arab world

( ... can I expect a flood of anti-Semite screams, now - for mentioning Israeli political history ?)

and all you would do is have the endless enmity between the original madagascarans and the Jews. Or did you not think of that?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Mark this day as one of Shame Reply #59 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm adelcrow wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:42pm: Im trying to forget my time on Yahoo...it all got just a tad dysfunctional Only a TAD????
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