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Re: 2 page PNG policy
Reply #15 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:25pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The devil is in the detail, none of which has been worked out yet.
This is going to blow up in KRudd's face.

Do you want it to blow up in his face and see people drown at sea or have their skulls caved in on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

Huh?

Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

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Reply #16 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:27pm

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:25pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The devil is in the detail, none of which has been worked out yet.
This is going to blow up in KRudd's face.

Do you want it to blow up in his face and see people drown at sea or have their skulls caved in on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

Huh?

Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

So, you predict Rudd's unique solution will result in kids drowning or having their skulls cove in on the cliffs of Christmas Island. Please explain why?

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Reply #17 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:33pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:27pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:25pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The devil is in the detail, none of which has been worked out yet.
This is going to blow up in KRudd's face.

Do you want it to blow up in his face and see people drown at sea or have their skulls caved in on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

Huh?

Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

So, you predict Rudd's unique solution will result in kids drowning or having their skulls cove in on the cliffs of Christmas Island. Please explain why?

LOL, English motherfvucker, do you speak it?

I aint predicting poo, I am still waiting for details on the PNG implementation.

I am pointing out that predicting something will happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

Its not a difficult concept to grasp but it seems it eludes you. Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:39pm

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:25pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The devil is in the detail, none of which has been worked out yet.
This is going to blow up in KRudd's face.

Do you want it to blow up in his face and see people drown at sea or have their skulls caved in on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

Huh?

Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

I reckon I am typing in pretty good English. Okay, let's go back as tad. What is it that you were predicting?

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Reply #19 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:39pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:25pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22pm:

The devil is in the detail, none of which has been worked out yet.
This is going to blow up in KRudd's face.

Do you want it to blow up in his face and see people drown at sea or have their skulls caved in on the cliffs of Christmas Island?

Huh?

Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen.

I reckon I am typing in pretty good English. Okay, let's go back as tad. What is it that you were predicting?

Did you read the bit where I said I aint predicting poo?

And this frankly is a waste of time if you are not willing to read, and make the effort to understand what I have written. After all, none of what I have typed is difficult to grasp.

And you like to pretend you were a lawyer? Bugger me, hate to see you trying to decipher a contract if what I have written above is enough to confuse you.

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"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38737 Gender:	Re: 2 page PNG policy Reply #20 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:57pm I read this bit. You wrote it.......in English even: Quote: Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen. What was it you were predicting?
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Reply #21 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:01pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:19pm:

http://www.dfat.gov.au/issues/rra-png.pdf

An absolute disaster by this Labor government

Policies - especially international policies - requires careful wordings setting out the responsibilities of each side.

This is at best a Memorandum of Understanding

A Labor farce

doesn't Abbotts 10 page white booklet contain all his policies? Grin

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Reply #22 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

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Reply #23 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:25pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

disagree Phil ... maqqa gave up the right to ask for details when he kept making up excuses for Abbotts lack of details.

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Reply #24 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

he's offered PNG, including the redevelopment and some running costs of a big hospital, reform of PNG universities, and spending on health, education and law and order .... and that's just for a start...

there's also the cost of yet another processing centre and more housing...

but in the mean time... they have to bulldoze 4000 locals out of one area and will leave them nowhere to live.. '

they are not amused...

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Reply #25 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

disagree Phil ... maqqa gave up the right to ask for details when he kept making up excuses for Abbotts lack of details.

You might have a point John, however I would like to know more about this policy before I start singing its praises to loudly.....Abbott has had 3 years to nut out all his policies so we can expect to see the details when the election is called which is fair enough IMO???

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Reply #26 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:36pm

True Blue... wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

he's offered PNG, including the redevelopment and some running costs of a big hospital, reform of PNG universities, and spending on health, education and law and order .... and that's just for a start...

Great to see Australia providing for our northern neighbours to improve there services!!!

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Reply #27 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:36pm

True Blue... wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

he's offered PNG, including the redevelopment and some running costs of a big hospital, reform of PNG universities, and spending on health, education and law and order .... and that's just for a start...

there's also the cost of yet another processing centre and more housing...

but in the mean time... they have to bulldoze 4000 locals out of one area and will leave them nowhere to live.. '

they are not amused...

For whom?

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: 2 page PNG policy Reply #28 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:38pm Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:57pm: I read this bit. You wrote it.......in English even: Quote: Predicting something might happen is not the same as wanting it to happen. What was it you were predicting? Comprehension aint your strong point is it? But keep asking by all means and demonstrating what a dill you are.
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Reply #29 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:38pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You are correct to question the detail of this policy Macca.....Kevin Rudd needs to provide the public with the details of what deal he has done with PNG.....I have no problem with Australia helping PNG improve its education, health and justice systems even without asylum seekers being tied to the deal.....My guess is aid will still be provided even if the boats stop which is why PNG agreed to it???

Huh

disagree Phil ... maqqa gave up the right to ask for details when he kept making up excuses for Abbotts lack of details.

You might have a point John, however I would like to know more about this policy before I start singing its praises to loudly.....Abbott has had 3 years to nut out all his policies so we can expect to see the details when the election is called which is fair enough IMO???

The LIBs policy is simple - Pacific Solution IN FULL

You lefties keep asking for details and the answer is the same each time - PACIFIC SOLUTION

The Pacific Solution was in operation for 6 years so if you are now asking "for details" then you are really not interested in a policy dicussion but like jacksh1t is more interested in political point scoring

I am just giving jacksh1t his just desserts

Last but not least - you ask for details of Rudd's policy

The link provides the exact details of the policy

Once again - read it and have the guts to admit that this is all Labor has in terms of policies

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