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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #15 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:15am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 7:55am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09pm:

Buzz by comparison supported the ousting of Rudd in 2010 and said a change of direction was needed.

He now supports the ousting of Gillard - I assume this is for another change in direction.

Am I destined for LIFE, to be the object of Andrei's rather "bizarre" block of fantasies ?

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I neither supported or opposed Gillard's rise to the leadership
I left this decision SOLELY ENTRUSTED in the hands of the Labor Caucus
I have NEVER claimed any different
( ... unlike yours truly - who changes nationality based on cricket scores and Starbuck's accessibility)
I had - and still have - enormous respect for the passion of BOTH

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I SUPPORTED a return to Rudd as leader - as the ONLY chance of avoiding the LibNat's being handed - on a plate - a land-slide victory

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I did NOT have an education identical to Andrei's

4/
I DO have a job

5/
I DO pay tax

COULDNT HELP BUT NOTICE YOU BARELY MADE AN APPEARANCE DURING THE GILLARD YEARS THOUGH... IF THE LIBS HADNT GOT IN IN VIC.. YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FLAT OUT FINDING SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR CRAYONS.

In fact quite a few lefties disappeared durin gthe gillard years... Grin

..understandable.

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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #16 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:17am

salad in wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:13am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

With Rudd's inhumane PNG announced last week and the backlash expected all the way through the election - some at Caucus today flags the return of Gillard

Correct. Many ALP heavies and other well connected people have my number on their speed dial. I can't remember just how many calls I have received over the last 3 days telling me of a move to reinstall Gillard. I'll keep OP tragics informed.

they are probably telling krudd BACK OFF...as once again he is jumping in where angels fear to tread....and we all know what happens when he does... dont we??

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14191 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #17 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18am salad in wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:13am: Many ALP heavies and other well connected people have my number on their speed dial. LOL ! I rather DOUBT it I fear you are suffering "delusions of grandeur" complex
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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #18 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:24am

cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:15am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 7:55am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09pm:

Buzz by comparison supported the ousting of Rudd in 2010 and said a change of direction was needed.

He now supports the ousting of Gillard - I assume this is for another change in direction.

Am I destined for LIFE, to be the object of Andrei's rather "bizarre" block of fantasies ?

1/
I neither supported or opposed Gillard's rise to the leadership
I left this decision SOLELY ENTRUSTED in the hands of the Labor Caucus
I have NEVER claimed any different
( ... unlike yours truly - who changes nationality based on cricket scores and Starbuck's accessibility)
I had - and still have - enormous respect for the passion of BOTH

2/
I SUPPORTED a return to Rudd as leader - as the ONLY chance of avoiding the LibNat's being handed - on a plate - a land-slide victory

3/
I did NOT have an education identical to Andrei's

4/
I DO have a job

5/
I DO pay tax

COULDNT HELP BUT NOTICE YOU BARELY MADE AN APPEARANCE DURING THE GILLARD YEARS THOUGH...

Despite your APING Longweekend - THAT is not true, EITHER

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rabbitoh07 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2783 Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #19 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:24am Maqqa wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm: With Rudd's inhumane PNG announced last week and the backlash expected all the way through the election - some at Caucus today flags the return of Gillard
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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #20 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:29am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:18am:

salad in wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:13am:

Many ALP heavies and other well connected people have my number on their speed dial.

LOL !

I rather DOUBT it

I fear you are suffering "delusions of grandeur" complex

More colour please Mr Crayons. And please use larger fonts.

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14191 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #21 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:32am cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:02am: HILARIOUS.... I did see where one minister said at the Balmain meeting.. that he trusted the factions more than his fellow ministers... I mean what does that tell you??? A BOLT - or ACKERMAN column ?
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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #22 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:34am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:02am:

HILARIOUS....

I did see where one minister said at the Balmain meeting.. that he trusted the factions more than his fellow ministers...

I mean what does that tell you???

A BOLT - or ACKERMAN column ?

NO DARL ABC NEWS...sorry about that.

it was during the Balmain meeting of the righteous...they were catching up on all the things kevvie has been doing.. Grin

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137373 Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #23 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:35am Maqqa wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm: With Rudd's inhumane PNG announced last week and the backlash expected all the way through the election - some at Caucus today flags the return of Gillard
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #24 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:37am I wonder how many of those calling for Gillard's return are actually Lib/Nats running scared?
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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:43am

GILLARD is dead and buried and never to return. Kevin has put the fix in and ensured that won't happen again.

KEVIN Rudd's reforms to how Labor's leadership is elected have been overwhelmingly supported in a special caucus meeting.

A number of senior speakers put debates for and against the reforms which would ensure it was harder for a leader to be rolled.

Former Communications Minister Stephen Conroy and Defence Minister Stephen Smith were among those who spoke against the reform.

Under the new rules an elected leader could not be removed from their position.

In opposition a leader could only be removed in the circumstances of the incumbent's resignation or after a petition backed by at least 60 per cent of the caucus.

Rank and file members would also get a vote in choosing a new leader.

The ability of caucus to choose the ministry would also be restored under the plan.

The initial proposal was for 75 per cent of the caucus to sign a petition for a leadership change.

But it was watered down to 60 per cent.

Sources said Mr Rudd recognised "in opposition it was a different circumstance" to change the leader.

Mr Rudd said the party had "decided to democratise the party for the future".

"Today the ALP has passed one of the most significant reforms in the party's recent history," Mr Rudd said.

"Each of our members now gets to have a say, a real say in the leadership of the party.

"The leadership of the party is now not in the hands of a factional few."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/kevin-rudd-gets-caucus-support-for-changes-to-electing-labor-leadership-after-rowdy-protesters-greet-him/story-fnho52ip-1226683003485#ixzz2ZoiCypRO

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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #26 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:47am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:15am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 7:55am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09pm:

Buzz by comparison supported the ousting of Rudd in 2010 and said a change of direction was needed.

He now supports the ousting of Gillard - I assume this is for another change in direction.

Am I destined for LIFE, to be the object of Andrei's rather "bizarre" block of fantasies ?

1/
I neither supported or opposed Gillard's rise to the leadership
I left this decision SOLELY ENTRUSTED in the hands of the Labor Caucus
I have NEVER claimed any different
( ... unlike yours truly - who changes nationality based on cricket scores and Starbuck's accessibility)
I had - and still have - enormous respect for the passion of BOTH

2/
I SUPPORTED a return to Rudd as leader - as the ONLY chance of avoiding the LibNat's being handed - on a plate - a land-slide victory

3/
I did NOT have an education identical to Andrei's

4/
I DO have a job

5/
I DO pay tax

COULDNT HELP BUT NOTICE YOU BARELY MADE AN APPEARANCE DURING THE GILLARD YEARS THOUGH...

Despite your APING Longweekend - THAT is not true, EITHER

And has come back to support a hard line Right wing policy which shuts the door on refugees and dumps them on a third world nation.

Playing politics with refugees supported by Buzz the "humanitarian".

Meanwhile real humanitarian advocates and groups have slammed the ALPs policy as "shameful" and "disgusting".

Not Buzz the humanitarian, whose morals are as weak as his socialism.
It's all weak and without virtue clearly.
No real humanitarian would support this.

Have a read of what Amnesty thinks of Australia.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74508 Gender:	Re: Some are calling for Gillard return Reply #27 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:49am Andrei, you keep running mate, what's the matter? You can't answer a simple question? When was the last time you voted labor at a Australian federal election?
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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #28 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:47am:

Playing politics with refugees supported by Buzz the "humanitarian".

yes it is a conundrum isnt it?.. I would have expected him to be screaming from the rafters.. Sad

so far since this announcement I have only seen one lefty protest..greenlight...

all others seem to be rubbing their hands with glee.... Shocked

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Re: Some are calling for Gillard return
Reply #29 - Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 9:18am

cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

cods wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 8:02am:

HILARIOUS....

I did see where one minister said at the Balmain meeting.. that he trusted the factions more than his fellow ministers...

I mean what does that tell you???

A BOLT - or ACKERMAN column ?

NO DARL ABC NEWS...sorry about that.

So where's your CREDIBILITY LINK ?

( ... though it's widely acknowledged anything YOU may have "heard on the wireless" would have floated off, through your hair-net, within the HOUR)

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