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The United Nations queries PNG solution
Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:06pm

The United Nations Human Rights Commission has questioned the right of Australia to ship the boat people to PNG.

I think the appropriate response from the Federal Government should be to tell the United Nations, to f....k off!

Where was the U.N. in Bosnia when thousands of citizens were being butchered whilst U.N. troops stood idly by?

At least this is a humane solution, the boaties won't want for food, tele or computers you can bet on that.

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Reply #1 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:18pm

No matter who gets into power at the next election its time Australia abandoned the refugee convention because now it is more than obvious that countries are just using Australia as a dumping ground and countries like Indonesia and Malaysia are making small fortunes smuggling refugees while denying their human rights.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: The United Nations queries PNG solution Reply #2 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:22pm Rather than muck around, both lib and lab should join in and massacre a few boatloads of men, women and children. Thats where the old parties are heading and thats what their supporters are baying for. No respect for human life or the rule of law.
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Reply #3 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:26pm

____ wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

Rather than muck around, both lib and lab should join in and massacre a few boatloads of men, women and children.

Thats where the old parties are heading and thats what their supporters are baying for.

No respect for human life or the rule of law.

Says the supporter of a party that still supports people smugglers.

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Reply #4 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:30pm

____ wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

Rather than muck around, both lib and lab should join in and massacre a few boatloads of men, women and children.

Thats where the old parties are heading and thats what their supporters are baying for.

No respect for human life or the rule of law.

The problem would be easily fixed if the Indonesians and Malaysians stopped issuing visas to these people.
Then we can up our intake of reffos and no one will die at sea..its really quite easy

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Reply #5 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:35pm

I would have expected the Unitied Nations to have queries over the PNG solution.

Not because its right or wrong, but because it is a major policy shift and one they would have questions over.

If they didnt have questions to ask I would be more concerned, but then again they dont do anything anyway so its not really of consequence.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The United Nations queries PNG solution Reply #6 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm Given that the majority of countries in the UN do stuff all to help asylum seekers that take to the high seas who gives a rats tossbag what the UN thinks. How many other countries in the UN resettle asylum seekers in the numbers Australia does..the US and Canada..and thats it.
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Reply #7 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:26pm:

____ wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

Rather than muck around, both lib and lab should join in and massacre a few boatloads of men, women and children.

Thats where the old parties are heading and thats what their supporters are baying for.

No respect for human life or the rule of law.

Says the supporter of a party that still supports people smugglers.

Doesn't LibLab support qantas anymore?

Oh. Am I bad. People smuggled in via tourist visas are ignored by the old parties and their supporters.

You watch, no one will start discussing theses queue jumpers.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The United Nations queries PNG solution Reply #8 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations. "Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"
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Reply #9 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:36pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations.

"Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"

hardly one to talk about morals, no?

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Reply #10 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations.

"Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"

hardly one to talk about morals, no?

Attacking the messenger.

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Reply #11 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations.

"Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"

Buddy Commies! Who cares what they think?

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Reply #12 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

____ wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations.

"Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"

hardly one to talk about morals, no?

Attacking the messenger.

Oh please, the argument of humane vs inhumane is long gone.

Is it inhumane to place smokescreens up? Yes.

Is it humane to encourage people to come by people smuggler? No.

What is needed, as I've said before, is an approach that places deterrents on using a people smuggler, but at the same time provides incentives to reigster for processing with UNHCR.

That's humane.

The Greens Approach, Inhumane.

And yes, I don't think its wise for a self proclaimed racist and bigot to be arguing morality because a british ngo, which is hardly in a position to criticise anyone themselves, have issued a statement without addressing the core of the issue.

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Re: The United Nations queries PNG solution
Reply #13 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

____ wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Australia’s actions, claiming the country is not fulfilling its moral obligations.

"Mark this day in history as the day Australia decided to turn its back on the world's most vulnerable people, closed the door and threw away the key,"

hardly one to talk about morals, no?

Attacking the messenger.

Oh please, the argument of humane vs inhumane is long gone.

Is it inhumane to place smokescreens up? Yes.

Is it humane to encourage people to come by people smuggler? No.

What is needed, as I've said before, is an approach that places deterrents on using a people smuggler, but at the same time provides incentives to reigster for processing with UNHCR.

That's humane.

The Greens Approach, Inhumane.

If you are just worried about people making a profit from providing a service then do what any decent capitalist would do.

Let Australia set up in competition. Seaworthy vessels, cheaper prices and cut the processing time verses the leaky boat service.

The current boat transporter's business model would sink overnight.

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Re: The United Nations queries PNG solution
Reply #14 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 4:00pm

red baron wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:06pm:

Where was the U.N. in Bosnia when thousands of citizens were being butchered whilst U.N. troops stood idly by?

And remember Kofi Annan ~ Secretary-General of the United Nations?

In charge of the UN, and did absolutely nothing while 800,000 were being slaughtered with machetes.

Beginning on April 6, 1994, Hutus began slaughtering the Tutsis in the African country of Rwanda. As the brutal killings continued, the world stood idly by and just watched the slaughter. Lasting 100 days, the Rwanda genocide left approximately 800,000 Tutsis and Hutu sympathizers dead.

I remember horrific video clips of Tutsis pleading with UN troops not to leave them because a Hutu killing-squad was about to arrive within minutes. You saw the army vehicles drive off down the road.

Later video showed the utter carnage that had descended upon those terrified people.

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