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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #45 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #46 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Why would anyone go to this fundraiser?
Thommo is a sleaze, a crook and he ripped off HSU members...he should be put in jail for a very very long time.
And anyone that supports him is just as bad as he is

So, he's been convicted then?

Undecided

well he plans to not contest the charges so its kinda points to his guilt

More deliberate and blatant lies from melielongtime. Put up the link which establishes that he is not contesting the charges.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #47 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

it is good to see you supporting labors criminals - people who take half a million dollars of union money and spend it on himself and hookers. Its bad enough that labor has these people in its ranks; it is worse that dopes like you support him.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #48 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm

Alinta wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 10:01am:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

Not from what I've read...you have a link to substantiate your comment?????

Beat me to it.....

AGAIN, LOL....

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #49 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

Do you have a source for this new information? Or did red baron tell you?

"Mr Thomson has vowed to vigorously defend the allegations."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/craig-thomson-now-faces-173-fraud-rel...

"He has repeatedly denied using Health Services Union credit cards to pay for escorts."

"Despite some media reports, I am not making any admissions."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/thomson-may-not-disput...

Et tu, Greggery.....

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #50 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Why would anyone go to this fundraiser?
Thommo is a sleaze, a crook and he ripped off HSU members...he should be put in jail for a very very long time.
And anyone that supports him is just as bad as he is

So, he's been convicted then?

Undecided

well he plans to not contest the charges so its kinda points to his guilt

Can just see that in a court of law....

"Your Honour, he kinda looks guilty, so we should sorta hang him till he's kinda dead...."

Good Grief!!!

Cheesy

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #51 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

it is good to see you supporting labors criminals - people who take half a million dollars of union money and spend it on himself and hookers. Its bad enough that labor has these people in its ranks; it is worse that dopes like you support him.

When was he convicted of taking union money and spending it on himself and hookers?

Did this happen yesterday? Undecided

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #52 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

[quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1374805406/5#5 date=1374807345]Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

it is good to see you supporting labors criminals - people who take half a million dollars of union money and spend it on himself and hookers. Its bad enough that labor has these people in its ranks; it is worse that dopes like you support him.[/quote]

NOT supporting anything but justice being allowed to run its course without outside interference.

"Dopes", eh??
Time to get yourself out of the 'Kiddie fiction' section.....

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #53 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:46pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Why would anyone go to this fundraiser?
Thommo is a sleaze, a crook and he ripped off HSU members...he should be put in jail for a very very long time.
And anyone that supports him is just as bad as he is

So, he's been convicted then?

Undecided

well he plans to not contest the charges so its kinda points to his guilt

Can just see that in a court of law....

"Your Honour, he kinda looks guilty, so we should sorta hang him till he's kinda dead...."

Good Grief!!!

Cheesy

well if it is true that the plans to not contest the charges that DOES indicate the truth of the matter. Incredibly, his defence is going to be that he was authorised to spend all that money without any controls. he is going to argue that it was within union rules for him to spend money on hookers and to take cash advances of $100k etc... Either way, he is effectively admitting that he DID spend money on hookers which if parliament were still sitting could have him chucked out for lying to the house.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #54 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

it is good to see you supporting labors criminals - people who take half a million dollars of union money and spend it on himself and hookers. Its bad enough that labor has these people in its ranks; it is worse that dopes like you support him.

When was he convicted of taking union money and spending it on himself and hookers?

Did this happen yesterday? Undecided

he was ARRESTED for the charges and has appeared in court more than once. You can keep making the 'he's innocent' claim all you like, but you are not standing up for 'innocent until proven guilty', but rather standing up for a labor politician.

and maybe you can explain to me why a lot of people who are arrested are kept in prison BEFORE they are convicted. it's not just for community protection as most do not pose a threat. so the legal system has no problem with jailing an unconvicted person.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #55 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

matty wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Lobo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

matty wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

[quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1374805406/5#5 date=1374807345]Why would anyone support Thommo?

Maybe they think he is innocent ??

I could equally ask how anyone could support Abbott I don't understand that either.

1. He's more or less admitted that he did do it.
2. What has Abbott done on the same level?

He has??

'More or less', eh???

Do tell......

He's pleading guilty to the charges.

He is??

"Embattled federal MP Craig Thomson has signalled for the first time he may be willing to make concessions over his alleged use of a union credit card to pay for porn and prostitutes, and his legal team has successfully argued for the case to be heard in a lower court."

it is good to see you supporting labors criminals - people who take half a million dollars of union money and spend it on himself and hookers. Its bad enough that labor has these people in its ranks; it is worse that dopes like you support him.[/quote]

NOT supporting anything but justice being allowed to run its course without outside interference.

"Dopes", eh??
Time to get yourself out of the 'Kiddie fiction' section.....

Wink

and if you were actually defending the principle of justice, you'd have a point. but since you are merely defending a labor politician for no other reason than he is a labor politican, there is no principle of justice involved.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #56 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 3:58pm

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and maybe you can explain to me why a lot of people who are arrested are kept in prison BEFORE they are convicted. it's not just for community protection as most do not pose a threat. so the legal system has no problem with jailing an unconvicted person.

Oh, so now you misrepresent the principles concerning the granting of bail!

Is their no limit of the depths of deceit to which you will plunge, melielongtime?

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Reply #58 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 4:11pm

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and maybe you can explain to me why a lot of people who are arrested are kept in prison BEFORE they are convicted. it's not just for community protection as most do not pose a threat. so the legal system has no problem with jailing an unconvicted person.

Oh, so now you misrepresent the principles concerning the granting of bail!

Is their no limit of the depths of deceit to which you will plunge, melielongtime?

then explain to me how a person kept in jail PRIOR to his trial is not in jail without a conviction? Im not criticising the bail system; I am criticising the idiotic claims in a prior post.

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Reply #59 - Jul 27^th, 2013 at 4:12pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 27^th, 2013 at 4:00pm:

Innocent until PROVEN guilty!!!

As opposed to....

Guilty 'because I say he is'; for political purposes...

when I hear you say that about a Liberal charged with a serious crime, I will believe you. For now, you are merely trotting out a principle that supports your bias and therefor is not a principle at all.

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