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The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:08am
 
ALP eyes youth dole boot camps

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    July 28, 2013



Young job seekers would be forced into tough army-style boot camps in order to qualify for the dole, under an election policy being considered by the Rudd government.      Huh

In a leaked submission put to the Labor government's powerful Expenditure Review Committee by ministers Bill Shorten and Kate Ellis in May, a Youth Start Boot Camp was tabled as a future election policy.

Senior government sources said that the army-style camps, which are designed to impose strict disciplinary regimes, remain on the table as an election policy for Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

The idea was framed as a possible vote winner for the government and was slated to be announced before August 15, if accepted.


Fairfax Media has an outline of the written submission, which was discussed during a meeting of then Gillard government ministers putting up election campaign strategy proposals to the committee.

Asked how far the proposal had progressed and if it was still under consideration, Mr Rudd's office would not comment.      Sad

A spokeswoman for the Prime Minister said: ''The government does not publicly discuss the submissions that come before the Expenditure Review Committee of cabinet.''

Mr Shorten, who is now Education Minister, and Ms Ellis, who remains Workplace Participation Minister, also declined to comment.

But another senior government source insisted the submission was still alive.

''Whatever the official word, this has not been taken off the table,'' they said. ''Not everything has been thrown out with the change of leadership.''

The proposal calls for $70 million over four years to be reallocated from Jobs Services Australia providers into other programs to ''assist young job seekers and provide campaigning opportunities''.

Early school leavers aged between 15 and 21 years are the target of the proposed initiative.

There are a wide variety of wilderness and adventure boot camps being used across Australia, ranging from those teaching work-ready skills like discipline, presentation and attitude to those targeting young repeat offenders.

The Queensland government is currently giving a trial to an early-intervention youth boot camp that will focus on young people at risk of long-term offending.

Boystown, a program operating in Queensland, NSW and South Australia, mixes adventure-based learning, sport and outdoor activities with employment programs to help young men and women aged 15 to 25.

A study by Monash University found 61 per cent of participants in Boystown programs found full-time employment and nearly 12 per cent found part-time or casual work.

The Brahminy Foundation's Wilderness Camp, 200 kilometres from Darwin, is for some of society's most troubled and unemployable youths.

Founder Allan Brahminy says his camps are tough and intense but he stresses there is a therapeutic element to the programs, which include long stays of up to a year and 21-day wilderness hikes including five days' kayaking and more than 100 kilometres of walking in the NT wilderness.

In the ministerial submission, the ministers highlighted in bold their proposal for a Youth Start Boot Camp and explained that: ''Unemployed young people will participate in an army boot camp and pre-employment training.''

Other options mooted were community work experience for unemployed youth, first job programs for youth from disadvantaged backgrounds, and a combination of all of the measures, including rigorous boot camps.

The submission complains about poor recognition for the existing program that funds providers to deliver targeted assistance in the form of structured activities of up to 25 hours a week to build life, study and employment skills.

And there is ''scant data on delivery rate and outcomes''.

Boot camps were proposed as a better option.

''Youth unemployment is a growing problem that we need to address,'' the submission reads.

''There are opportunities to partner with business, particularly big business and to end intergenerational unemployment for young people.''

With JULIE POWER

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/alp-eyes-youth-dole-boot-camps-20130727-2qrmk.html#ixzz2aHn3L7d7
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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:18am
 

The ALP and the Coalition need a boot camp for themselves, they're both out of control.

Punish the youth, they're all lazy.....nothing to do with the fact that there is NO work.

Little boot camps to con the youngsters into signing for the big boot camp.
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Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:18am
 
Not acceptable in any way, shape or form, sorry.

Maybe you can sell the policy to Abbott, it's more his style.

Why am I not surprised Shorten's grubby fingerprints are all over this?

This 'punish the unemployed' mentality must be stamped out at all costs.
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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:20am
 
Rudd will have them goosestepping around in their little black uniforms in no time.
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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:26am
 
Old Ruddy has no shame, there isn't a single Labor party value he won't trash if there is a vote in it ... what an appalling little piece of shite he is.  Grin
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Reply #5 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:26am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:18am:
The ALP and the Coalition need a boot camp for themselves, they're both out of control.

Punish the youth, they're all lazy.....nothing to do with the fact that there is NO work.

Little boot camps to con the youngsters into signing for the big boot camp.




shhhhh pansi someone from the left tells us this govt has created 4 million jobs..

well THEY believe it?.

can you see any govt making this generation DO ANYTHING?...hilarious.
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Reply #6 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:28am
 
Kat wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:18am:
Not acceptable in any way, shape or form, sorry.

Maybe you can sell the policy to Abbott, it's more his style.

Why am I not surprised Shorten's grubby fingerprints are all over this?

This 'punish the unemployed' mentality must be stamped out at all costs.



Is the government saying that the job  agencies are so hopeless that they have to run boot camps to get people into work?

I would never allow my 15 or 16 year old to go into the bush with these people, not after what we know happens in the ADF and the churches. Parents will have to start hiding their children in the attic to keep them safe.
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The Brahminy Foundation's Wilderness Camp, 200 kilometres from Darwin, is for some of society's most troubled and unemployable youths.



Sounds like a POW camp, or Deep-South 'road-gang'-style incarceration to me.

Is this the first step towards locking our unemployed up for being unemployed?

If so, God help this country, because I surely will not.
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Innocent bystander wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:26am:
Old Ruddy has no shame, there isn't a single Labor party value he won't trash if there is a vote in it ... what an appalling little piece of shite he is.  Grin



this is what I just dont get.... he will be a little dictator if he gets back in..

My WAY or the HIGHWAY..

havent we been there?

and the left think its great that he is breaking every labor rule in the book..

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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:33am
 
Kat wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:29am:
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The Brahminy Foundation's Wilderness Camp, 200 kilometres from Darwin, is for some of society's most troubled and unemployable youths.



Sounds like a POW camp, or Deep-South 'road-gang'-style incarceration to me.

Is this the first step towards locking our unemployed up for being unemployed?

If so, God help this country, because I surely will not.





for the troubled and  delinquent youth we have..

I have no problems  with it as long as its done with respect and kindness..  some of our kids have never been shown either

they learn a massive amount in some of these places and come out decent citizens instead of jailbait.... and tragically for some its the on ly love they know.

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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:33am
 
"Repeat offenders"? "Offending"? WTF?

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cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:26am:
[quote author=pansi1951 link=1374962909/1#1 date=1374963510]
The ALP and the Coalition need a boot camp for themselves, they're both out of control.



Punish the youth, they're all lazy.....nothing to do with the fact that there is NO work.

Little boot camps to con the youngsters into signing for the big boot camp.




shhhhh pansi someone from the left tells us this govt has created 4 million jobs..

well THEY believe it?.

can you see any govt making this generation DO ANYTHING?...hilarious.


You do realise the previous generation said the same thing about your generation cods.

I wouldn't speak too ill of them because it is these same people who will be changing your diapers in the future. You wouldn't want them to leave you messy for too long, would you?

Is it the government wrecking manufacturing or the "lazy" kids?.....you can't have it both ways.

This generation is not lazy, they work damn hard, when they get the opportunity.

It's the economy.........
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Reply #12 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:42am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:34am:
cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:26am:
[quote author=pansi1951 link=1374962909/1#1 date=1374963510]
The ALP and the Coalition need a boot camp for themselves, they're both out of control.



Punish the youth, they're all lazy.....nothing to do with the fact that there is NO work.

Little boot camps to con the youngsters into signing for the big boot camp.




shhhhh pansi someone from the left tells us this govt has created 4 million jobs..

well THEY believe it?.

can you see any govt making this generation DO ANYTHING?...hilarious.


You do realise the previous generation said the same thing about your generation cods.

I wouldn't speak too ill of them because it is these same people who will be changing your diapers in the future. You wouldn't want them to leave you messy for too long, would you?

Is it the government wrecking manufacturing or the "lazy" kids?.....you can't have it both ways.

This generation is not lazy, they work damn hard, when they get the opportunity.

It's the economy.........



onai you are probably of a different generation to me.. but believe me.. we all had jobs.. good and bad.. no such thing as dole in my day. we were never called lazy cant get out of bed..

this generation is lazy pansi.. I remember someone suggesting the get on a BUS to go to work.. shock waves went through the place.

they do not work hard pansi.. they have far too many machines to do what MY GENERATION DID BY HAND AND BACK..

sorry matey...but that is a fact..men dont dig roads today machines do..

its the same with accounting.. its done my machine..

I would not go down a mine if you paid me too...and I admire those that do...but even that is becoming a thing of the past its all opencut now...

look around pansi things have changed an awful lot.

honest to god stop finding excuses for everything.
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Reply #13 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:43am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:33am:
"Repeat offenders"? "Offending"? WTF?

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It's just as I've been saying...

These dogs regard not having a job as a crime, and it's
fairly obvious that the long-term intent is to incarcerate
anyone who's out of work for longer than some arbitrarily-
set time limit.

Anything to avoid doing the right thing by the
unemployed.

And it plays right into the foul arms of those who espouse
the 'dole-bludger' mentality.
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Reply #14 - Jul 28th, 2013 at 8:48am
 
Taking money off working people without even bothering to try and find a job is a crime.

They need to stop giving them money and switch to food stamps and vouchers.
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