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Reply #45 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:21am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:28am:

Kat wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:18am:

Not acceptable in any way, shape or form, sorry.

Maybe you can sell the policy to Abbott, it's more his style.

Why am I not surprised Shorten's grubby fingerprints are all over this?

This 'punish the unemployed' mentality must be stamped out at all costs.

Is the government saying that the job agencies are so hopeless that they have to run boot camps to get people into work?

I would never allow my 15 or 16 year old to go into the bush with these people, not after what we know happens in the ADF and the churches. Parents will have to start hiding their children in the attic to keep them safe.

what on earth have these job networks been doing that costs tax payers 4 billion a year to run ??

no wonder Therese Rein has made a fortune out of the unemployed. 210 billions worth according to the BRW Sad

There's lots of money in unemployed people Sad

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Reply #46 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:28am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:46am:

Kat wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It is good to have a pool of available workers.

It isn't as good to have a pool of oxygen stealers who haven't worked a day in decades and spent my money on beer.

And as long as you persist in that erroneous misconception, you'll have no credibility.

Credibility with who?

I just received a high mark on my performance review and was labelled "exceptional" in my achievement of corporate objectives.
I'll take that credibility over the thoughts of the oddballs on here.

I am your better.

I know a dude who was a financial controller of a company who was on a five figure salary plus company car. They sent a couple of indian dudes from india to find out what he was doing and 2 weeks after that he got the push and his job is now being done in India for $7000 a year Wink

Nobody is indispensable hicks Wink

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #47 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:41am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:29am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

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I don't think many unemployed would be living, a very comfortable life style. Not on the measly money, that they have to survive on. Sad

Please tell me in however many words you like what they do for this money?

Perhaps amnesty international can explain to you why such things as safety nets exist.

Interesting you couldn't shoot holes in Amnesty's labeling of Australia as "shameful" though?

... and Andrei is a RENOWNED supporter of The United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees - not to mention Amnesty International

IN FACT, he wears an Amnesty lapel pin - just like ( ... former Howard Government Immigration Minister) Phillip Ruddock's

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #48 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:52am

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

no such thing as dole in my day.

... and what WAS "your day" ?

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There was a major extension of the social security system in 1945
with the introduction of Commonwealth Unemployment Benefit
and Sickness Benefit
in the form of flat-rate payments financed from general revenue and subject to an income test.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/8e72c45...

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #49 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:13pm

Kat wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Kat wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:53am:

[quote author=Andrei.Hicks link=1374962909/14#14 date=1374965334]Taking money off working people without even bothering to try and find a job is a crime.

They need to stop giving them money and switch to food stamps and vouchers.

And you need a good dose of reality.[/quote]

why???..

if they spend it on smokes or grog...and then queue up at the soup kitchen...it looks good for the likes of crook and yourself..

give them another $50 a week $100 a fortnight and we know where most of that will go.

I have known unemployed in the past and not one of them lived on the streets they all lived in a nice comfy warm home.with food on the table...I dont really see why they should get more.

And there goes your credibility, right there. The first sentence is loaded with bias, ignorance and stereotyping. No real need to read further.

The point being that you have no idea where it might go, and no right to decide where it might go.

And if you 'don't really see why they should get more' then you must be blind.

ANY MORE THAN YOU HAVE THEY ARE ALL HARD DONE BY...

as for not knowing anything... in Canberra some wash wind=screens at the traffic lights thee are obviously unemployed rough looking and untidy.. ALL SMOKING....yes I always get mine cleaned..I do like to help..

DONT FORGET IF i DONT KNOW WHERE THE MONEY GOES NEITHER DO YOU OR CROOK...

FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN.. AN AWFUL LOT ARE COVERED IN TATTOOS..OR HAVE BODY PIERCING .. all of which turns many off employing them..

and for your information I not judging all the same.... as I said before I have known some and I was talking from that experience.

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #51 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:15pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

no such thing as dole in my day.

... and what WAS "your day" ?

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

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There was a major extension of the social security system in 1945
with the introduction of Commonwealth Unemployment Benefit
and Sickness Benefit
in the form of flat-rate payments financed from general revenue and subject to an income test.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/8e72c45...

well I am talking about ENGLAND..they still had food coupons in 1945

they were getting over a massive WAR.

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Reply #52 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

Absolutely.

Leave cods alone. She's from England.

they wont leave me alone andrei.. I am easy pickings for the bully boys..

one of the things that always amazes me about this country is the fact they do HAVE IT REALLY GOOD.. when I left England they had 2 weeks holidays per annum..here it was 3/4 weeks..plus untold public holidays even Union days off..

and still it isnt enough..

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #53 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:46am:

Kat wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It is good to have a pool of available workers.

It isn't as good to have a pool of oxygen stealers who haven't worked a day in decades and spent my money on beer.

And as long as you persist in that erroneous misconception, you'll have no credibility.

Credibility with who?

I just received a high mark on my performance review and was labelled "exceptional" in my achievement of corporate objectives.
I'll take that credibility over the thoughts of the oddballs on here.

I am your better.

I know a dude who was a financial controller of a company who was on a five figure salary plus company car. They sent a couple of indian dudes from india to find out what he was doing and 2 weeks after that he got the push and his job is now being done in India for $7000 a year Wink

Nobody is indispensable hicks Wink

dont forget nails.. they dont pay taxes in Australia..or spend the $7000 in AUstralia.. that is whats harming this country.

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #54 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

for many unemployed its not about a comfortable lifestyle, its about avoiding work at all cost. Un employment breeds crime, so what we need to start doing is to stop handing ourt money for nothing. Work for the dole must happen, in all cases. We may be surprised how many people actually find productive work for themselves when faced with the fact they are going to have to work anyway. The indigenous unemployment rate is a disgrace at 16 percent. We have too many in this country sitting on their arses with their hands out, it has to stop.

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Reply #55 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:30pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It is good to have a pool of available workers.

It isn't as good to have a pool of oxygen stealers who haven't worked a day in decades and spent my money on beer.

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dickhead you have rip off the Australia taxpayers when you work here so how come the unemployed people spent

your money

on beer

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Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps
Reply #56 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

no such thing as dole in my day.

... and what WAS "your day" ?

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Quote:

There was a major extension of the social security system in 1945
with the introduction of Commonwealth Unemployment Benefit
and Sickness Benefit
in the form of flat-rate payments financed from general revenue and subject to an income test.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/8e72c45...

well I am talking about ENGLAND..they still had food coupons in 1945

they were getting over a massive WAR.

In case you missed a BBC NEWSREEL, or two, so was Australia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17073472

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Reply #57 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:38pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

no such thing as dole in my day.

... and what WAS "your day" ?

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Quote:

There was a major extension of the social security system in 1945
with the introduction of Commonwealth Unemployment Benefit
and Sickness Benefit
in the form of flat-rate payments financed from general revenue and subject to an income test.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/8e72c45...

well I am talking about ENGLAND..they still had food coupons in 1945

they were getting over a massive WAR.

In case you missed a BBC NEWSREEL, or two, so was Australia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17073472

what the hell are you raving about?..

was Australia flattened???? like England was?..

I am not saying it wasnt tough here...you are so rude I really cant be bothered.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps Reply #58 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:43pm dont panic Mr Mannering.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The ALP Eyes Youth Dole Boot Camps Reply #59 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:48pm Don't be such an ignorant fool Buzz. You cannot compare the impact of WW2 on Australia compared to how we suffered through consistent bombing campaigns of 1940-44. Whilst Australia like many suffered to so extent, it pales in comparison to Europe and Great Britain.
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