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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #45 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves.

Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite.

Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #46 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:20pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

In your case Mr Hicks, it is clear that the arrogance you display is borne out of a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others.

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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #47 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:22pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

arrogance goes beyond self confidence dopey ...... like everything else, to much of a good thing is bad for you. I'd have to wonder if you would be so free with your 'compliments' in real life ..

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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #48 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:29pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves.

Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite.

Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

I am not arrogant, merely self confident and I suffer fools lightly.

I also did not work as bloody hard in life to have some thick-as-mince blue collar labourer believe he can regard himself as my peer.

By the way, someone is not arrogant merely because you believe they are.

You'll also find both sets of my forefathers were not arrogant, rather both had the confidence and fortitude to build countries from scratch. One an Empire, the other the Pearl of Africa.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75402 Gender:	Re: There is no limits to labor corruption Reply #49 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:32pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:29pm: I am not arrogant, merely self confident and I suffer fools lightly. so no mirrors in your place then?
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Reply #50 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 5:01pm

I do believe I am a Prophet!!!!

I posted ^^^:

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In your case Mr Hicks, it is clear that the arrogance you display is borne out of a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others.

Lo and behold, Mr Hicks comes up with the proof!!

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I also did not work as bloody hard in life to have some thick-as-mince blue collar labourer believe he can regard himself as my peer.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: There is no limits to labor corruption Reply #51 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:35pm The Boer isn't arrogant? C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.
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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #52 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:35pm:

The Boer isn't arrogant?

C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.

Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies.

It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset.

A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive.

Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #53 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:54pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves.

Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite.

Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

for a lefty we agree often peter....I heard a long time ago.. real wealthy people never talk about their money...the same with self confidence.. no need too....they ooooze it..

arrogance in my humble opinion is just a form of snobbery people who think they are better than most......trouble is only they think it.. Grin

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Re: There is no limits to labor corruption
Reply #54 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:56pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:35pm:

The Boer isn't arrogant?

C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.

Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies.

It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset.

A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive.

Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

so you really are of Dutch heritage rather than British andrei

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: There is no limits to labor corruption Reply #55 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:01pm both cods. But I am an Aussie by birth, I am more loyal to Australia than South Africa. In fact I hold no loyalty there, because i think what has happened in recent years there is an outrage and I want no part of it.
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Reply #56 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:35pm:

The Boer isn't arrogant?

C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.

Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies.

It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset.

A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive.

Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

Andrei, I have read about Boer history and agree with your assessment of them. But many were, and still are, both arrogant and racist.

I have also read a history of the Broederbond which tells part of the story, too.

There is much in Boer history for you to be proud of, but also much that is shameful. I know you won't agree, but apartheid, to me, was a movement of murder, racism, arrogance and bigotry.

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Reply #57 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:27pm

We will disagree and that's perfectly fine.

But to me the policy of Separate Development - as envisaged by Malan and Verwoerd was about developing races of people in Africa in a way where they can live side by side without conflict.

The behaviour of the police and security forces at times was poor - and this has come to light moreso in more recent times and isn't excusable by me in any way - but I think South Africa was a better place under Apartheid.

If applied correctly and could - and did - work.

When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing.

Take for example the cover up of the killing of Steven Biko.
Now Biko did himself absolutely no favours by refusing to carry his ID, refusing to answer questions from the Police and then refusing to sit down in the interrogation.
Now it doesn't excuse the beating he received, it doesn't excuse Jimmy Kruger making light of his death with jokes - but a great deal of the troubles in the 1960s - 1980s can be apportioned to both sides.
Not just the Afrikaners.

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Reply #59 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:40pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:38pm:

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but I think South Africa was a better place under Apartheid.

Sure you do. It was a far better for whitey who subjugated and made the majority subservient, less human than the arrogant.

See my post in another thread about taking my comment completely out of context.

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When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing.

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