True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:



Here is the context of Koran 9.123, directly from the inerrant and clear Koran;


9:120
It was not [proper] for the people of Madinah and those surrounding them of the bedouins that they remain behind after [the departure of] the Messenger of Allah or that they prefer themselves over his self. That is because they are not afflicted by thirst or fatigue or hunger in the cause of Allah , nor do they tread on any ground that enrages the disbelievers, nor do they inflict upon an enemy any infliction but that is registered for them as a righteous deed. Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward of the doers of good.

9:121
Nor do they spend an expenditure, small or large, or cross a valley but that it is registered for them that Allah may reward them for the best of what they were doing.

9:122
And it is not for the believers to go forth [to battle] all at once. For there should separate from every division of them a group [remaining] to obtain understanding in the religion and warn their people when they return to them that they might be cautious.



9:124
And whenever a surah is revealed, there are among the hypocrites those who say, "Which of you has this increased faith?" As for those who believed, it has increased them in faith, while they are rejoicing.

9:125
But as for those in whose hearts is disease, it has [only] increased them in evil [in addition] to their evil. And they will have died while they are disbelievers.

9:126
Do they not see that they are tried every year once or twice but then they do not repent nor do they remember?

http://quran.com/9/120-126i


Allah declares, that his book, makes his message clear.

Allah declares, that NOTHING IN THE KORAN IS AMBIGUOUS.



And TC, don't you understand, that the Koran is Allah's inerrant word ???




TC,

And Allah declares , IN THE KORAN ITSELF, that the words in the Koran are clear [perspicuous!!], and therefore those words clear-ly mean, what a rational person understands the Koran texts mean.


as per....

012.001
YUSUFALI: A.L.R. These are the symbols (or Verses) of the perspicuous Book.
PICKTHAL: Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verse of the Scripture that maketh plain.
SHAKIR: Alif Lam Ra. These are the verses of the Book that makes (things) manifest.




Dictionary;
perspicuous = =
1 (of an account or representation) clearly expressed and easily understood; lucid.
2 (of a person) expressing things clearly.


026.002
YUSUFALI: These are verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.
PICKTHAL: These are revelations of the Scripture that maketh plain.
SHAKIR: These are the verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:


Since you are the worst offender when it comes to misrepresenting what the texts say how about you provide a link when quoting verses.

Use these links-
www.quran.com
www.sunnah.com

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 4:03am:


Oh dear more muslim diatribe. Why is it that you band of killers believe that these particular wars were by and for Christians? Are you thick or do you suffer from some other affliction such as mythomania. Lets for once examine the FACTS WW1 WW2 Korean Vietnam wars the nuclear bombs on Japan KILLED between 85 to 105 MILLION PEOPLE. Not one of the PEOPLE who started this KILLING was CHRISTIAN. I swear blind if muslims had any more common sense they would be half wits. http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/10/20/islamabad-freelance-columnist-800...

On the other hand lets look at how muslims treated Hindus.

As Braudel put it: "The levies it had to pay were so crushing that one catastrophic harvest was enough to unleash famines and epidemics capable of killing a million people at a time. Appalling poverty was the constant counterpart of the conquerors' opulence."

Prof. K.S. Lal, suggests a calculation in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India which estimates that between the years 1000 AD and 1500 AD the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million. (adamant note read KILLED)

"according to Hasan Nizami's Taj-ul-Maasir, 20,000 Hindu prisoners were slaughtered and their heads offered to crows."[16]


"Under his rule, Hindus who were forced to pay the mandatory Jizya tax were recorded as infidels, their communities monitored and, if they violated Imperial ordinances and built temples, they were destroyed. In particular, an incident in the village of Gohana in Haryana was recorded in the "Insha-i-Mahry" (another historical record written by Amud Din Abdullah bin Mahru) where Hindus had erected a deity and were arrested, brought to the palace and executed en-masse" (adamants note, so much for the freedom of religion)

According to my calculation Muslims killed over 600 million people. I can substantiate these numbers with facts. For example, Aurangzeb killed 5 million in 20 years. Bahmani Sultans had an agend to kill 100000 every year for 250 years only is South India. that itself makes 25 millions. And murdering civilians was going on throught the country simultaneously. Bahamni Sultans were only tip of the iceberg. Babur killed 1 million in 3 years. Even emperor Akbar killed 2 millions during initial decades of his rule, though he softened a bit later. Timur Lang [Tamerlane] killed 1 million in 1 month. Qasim killed 2 million people. Ghazni Mohammed and Gauri Mohammed together killed nearly 30 million during their added total of 30 invasions. Tipu Sultan in south killed 10 million. In Bengal Muslims killed nearly 30 millions. Regular incursions from the Arabs, Iranians, etc killed nearly 50 millions. Nadir Shah killed 100000 civilians in one day (adamants note, Nuclear weapons had not been invented.

Lets see if the muslim love of mankind was better elsewhere, Africa perhaps.

"Over 28 Million Africans have been enslaved in the Muslim world during the past 14 centuries"  (adamants note, well he did call them Golliwogs. To get one eunuch for the muslims twenty males died, so much for the hospitals in muslim Africa)

However, at least 28 million Africans were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. As at least 80% of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave markets, it is believed that the death toll from the 14 centuries of Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been over 112 million. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the Tran Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people.

While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service.

That equates to between one hundred and ninety two million to six hundred and eighty million people killed by muslims, So Yes you are the biggest mass killers of All time. Please take your wife's advice. Kill somebody over there to get your jollies!

Let me put it this way, my wife is hassling me to get a job in Saudi

Well don't hold back on our account. You wont be able to live there permanently though as they are the most racist buggers on the planet!

P/S Don't have room to comment on Europe/Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/172982
http://truthandgrace.com/muslimslavery.htm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 8^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:


I got the idea from you insisting that "wanton" destruction is not permitted. People don't put together armies and go round destroying things just for fun. In order to portray Islamic warfare as different, you have created a strawman of non-Islamic warfare.

There are plenty of examples from the link in the opening post of Muhammed's army destroying things.

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What is the Arabic word for wanton?

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Muhammed often failed to distinguish guilty and innocent, combatant and non-combatant. Like when he executed every male past the age of puberty. His armies went on the rampage, slaughtering people and destroying property, even when the destruction served no military purpose. I gave an example in the highlights in the opening post.

Adamant wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:


My, what an interesting claim?

So, the German Kaiser wasn't a Christian?

So, why did he make this speech to the troops departing to the Boxer Rebellion in 1900?
Quote:
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So, German soldiers in WWI and WWII didn't march into battles wearing belt buckles which had "Gott Mit Uns" ("God With Us") on them?

So, German authorities didn't make appeals to the Christian God in WWI?  In WWII?

Adamant, your prejudice knows no bounds, it seems.  It blinds you just as much as any Muslim bigot to how ridiculous and far fetched your claims are.   

Adamant wrote on Nov 17^th, 2013 at 12:50pm:


I note the effort to move the goalposts, Adamant.  Tsk, tsk.   Is this an admission that your original claim that, "Not one of the PEOPLE who started this KILLING was CHRISTIAN," was wrong?  You seem to be trying to distance yourself from it, for some reason.   

Let me guess, World War One was caused by Muslims?   

*SIGH*, it is obvious that you've decided to concede that your original claim that, "Not one of the PEOPLE who started this KILLING was CHRISTIAN," in reference to WWI, was wrong?