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Reply #15 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

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Reply #16 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:57am

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:33am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:58am:

Last time Mr Abbott was in power he saved us money by denying Telstra the funds to remove tonnes of dangerous asbestos and ripping billions out of public health..so its obvious where he's gonna slash the budget Cheesy

funnnnny I have no recall of Abbott ever being in POWER... are you sure it wasnt trillion he ripped out Roll Eyes

Its funny that these rabid ALP supporters both rewrite history and the future all at the same time.

Must be the main symptom of the Abbott Abbott Abbott disease.

I like their line they often use blaming Abbott for ALP failures for not supporting their stupid policies they seem to change weekly.

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #17 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money we havent got.. aka PNG...

where have they spent our money??..

I am buggered if I can see where its all gone.. mining increased triple at least whilst they have been in power...so wheres it gone.. they didnt have any debt to pay off..

where it gone.. dont tell me computers cost that much?.

probably on kev the cons travel. Angry

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #18 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:00am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:57am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:33am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:58am:

Last time Mr Abbott was in power he saved us money by denying Telstra the funds to remove tonnes of dangerous asbestos and ripping billions out of public health..so its obvious where he's gonna slash the budget Cheesy

funnnnny I have no recall of Abbott ever being in POWER... are you sure it wasnt trillion he ripped out Roll Eyes

Its funny that these rabid ALP supporters both rewrite history and the future all at the same time.

Must be the main symptom of the Abbott Abbott Abbott disease.

I like their line they often use blaming Abbott for ALP failures for not supporting their stupid policies they seem to change weekly.

adel has gone off his rocker no doubt about that the stress of watching this lot.. has brain damaged him.....lets be fair it would do the same to us if we had elected them Grin

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Reply #19 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:05am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:57am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:33am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:58am:

Last time Mr Abbott was in power he saved us money by denying Telstra the funds to remove tonnes of dangerous asbestos and ripping billions out of public health..so its obvious where he's gonna slash the budget Cheesy

funnnnny I have no recall of Abbott ever being in POWER... are you sure it wasnt trillion he ripped out Roll Eyes

Its funny that these rabid ALP supporters both rewrite history and the future all at the same time.

Must be the main symptom of the Abbott Abbott Abbott disease.

I like their line they often use blaming Abbott for ALP failures for not supporting their stupid policies they seem to change weekly.

Libs in denial - Australia would probably be a better place had Abbott never been a member of a federal coalition government. As much as you guys would like to deny that it ever happened, it did.

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Reply #20 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:07am

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money we havent got.. aka PNG...

where have they spent our money??..

I am buggered if I can see where its all gone.. mining increased triple at least whilst they have been in power...so wheres it gone.. they didnt have any debt to pay off..

where it gone.. dont tell me computers cost that much?.

probably on kev the cons travel.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money

The Howard government were probably the most wasteful government we ever had.

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Reply #21 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:08am

cods

What is really odd is that they have not politically gained anything with all the spending of our money they have yet to collect.

It looks like old school ALP bloated government attitude.

It then looked like panic politics when no one really bought into most of their stuff. The only one that polled ok was the NDIS.

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Reply #24 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:14am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:10am:

Dnarever

Yes all that Howard waste caused all those Surpluses and the books to be balanced.

Yes and billions on illegal wars and bribes to third world dictators or bailing out his brothers failed company then setting up a structural deficit by giving away excessive election bribes in the form of unaffordable tax cuts.

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Reply #25 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:29am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money we havent got.. aka PNG...

where have they spent our money??..

I am buggered if I can see where its all gone.. mining increased triple at least whilst they have been in power...so wheres it gone.. they didnt have any debt to pay off..

where it gone.. dont tell me computers cost that much?.

probably on kev the cons travel.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money

The Howard government were probably the most wasteful government we ever had.

THEY PAID OFF A F&*^%(*$%^(^%^&(*(

GREAT BIG DEBT.

AS WELL AS LEFT THESE MORONS A SURPLUS.

AS WELL AS SAVED THE EAST TIMORESE... AS WELL AS STOPPED THE PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....

BUT THEY DID NOTHING... Angry

for you you mean Sad

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #26 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:34am

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money we havent got.. aka PNG...

where have they spent our money??..

I am buggered if I can see where its all gone.. mining increased triple at least whilst they have been in power...so wheres it gone.. they didnt have any debt to pay off..

where it gone.. dont tell me computers cost that much?.

probably on kev the cons travel.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money

The Howard government were probably the most wasteful government we ever had.

THEY PAID OFF A F&*^%(*$%^(^%^&(*(

GREAT BIG DEBT.

AS WELL AS LEFT THESE MORONS A SURPLUS.

AS WELL AS SAVED THE EAST TIMORESE... AS WELL AS STOPPED THE PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....

BUT THEY DID NOTHING... Angry

for you you mean Sad

You'd notice it if we had joined the Western recession so just be thankful that Kevin Sept 07 SAVED our arses from the global economic meltdown coz its gonna be an ugly decade after Tony finally drags us into that recession.
You have been warned Cheesy

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #27 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 11:15am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

Rightsadfred,

I think you are missing the point.

Does tony shout at the top of his lungs, "DEBT AND DEFICIT?"
The answer is yes, he does. Therefore, reasonable human beings would expect tony to explain how he will not have DEBT AND DEFICIT. It isn't about meeting labors surplus timeline; that just means he has performed exactly the same as those he thinks we're utterly horrible. No. For the man who tells ,DEBT AND DEFICIT, surely he must have a plan to remove this DEBT AND DEFICIT?

In fact, given he refuses to support and spending cut, and is now supporting governments spending, how is it even possible for him to get to surplus by 2016/17??

Question remains: what spending is tony going to cut? And how is he going to raise government revenue?

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #28 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 11:18am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:34am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

alevine

Why is it always the job of the libs to fix the messes that the ALP leave lying around ?

What you are missing is that assuming Abbott wins he will be given at least a 1 term free pass which is roughly when the fantasy land ALP surplus is predicted so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Its in the ALP's DNA to spend ...... actually overspend and its not in their DNA to even be close to budgetary honesty or credibility.

Its the ALP that is the problem, how did such a moron like swan get the job of treasurer ?

What we don't need is another term of reckless spend and politicised budgets, before you jump on this broad big overspending programmes you need to first balance the books ........ then look at these big ideas ..... even if they had credibility which is very debateable.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money we havent got.. aka PNG...

where have they spent our money??..

I am buggered if I can see where its all gone.. mining increased triple at least whilst they have been in power...so wheres it gone.. they didnt have any debt to pay off..

where it gone.. dont tell me computers cost that much?.

probably on kev the cons travel.

its in their DNA to waste and spend money

The Howard government were probably the most wasteful government we ever had.

THEY PAID OFF A F&*^%(*$%^(^%^&(*(

GREAT BIG DEBT.

AS WELL AS LEFT THESE MORONS A SURPLUS.

AS WELL AS SAVED THE EAST TIMORESE... AS WELL AS STOPPED THE PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....

BUT THEY DID NOTHING... Angry

for you you mean Sad

You'd notice it if we had joined the Western recession so just be thankful that Kevin Sept 07 SAVED our arses from the global economic meltdown coz its gonna be an ugly decade after Tony finally drags us into that recession.
You have been warned Cheesy

I hate to tell you this.. but we were never in danger of the GFC have you forgotten CHIONA already silly boy..

he spent like a fool and started the rot.. then he opened the flood gates to In donesia so they could dump the misery on us...and since then its been one long downhill to DEBT...

stop blaming everything and everyone else...

boy I am warning you you are going to cop one blame game after another if Tone gets in...

you have not a leg to stand on I have never heard of any govt making so many stuff ups and blaming everyone else for them as this one.. and you guys are the same...

I agree we are in for a torrid time... and we have nothing to back us up.. industry has almost gone mining is and has been slowing for ages...and now on top of that a MASSIVE B LOWOUT ON THE BUDGET AND A HUGE DEBT.. Angry

you are dead right... but dont blame the LIBS...we had nothing to do with it for 6 years..REMEMBER that if you can. Grin

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Reply #29 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 11:25am

cods wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 11:18am:

I hate to tell you this.. but we were never in danger of the GFC have you forgotten CHIONA already silly boy..

he spent like a fool and started the rot.. then he opened the flood gates to In donesia so they could dump the misery on us...and since then its been one long downhill to DEBT...

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Cods, firstly I'd appreciate it if you stayed away from your racist "dump the misery on us." No one is dumping any misery on us. Asylum Seekers are allowed to seek asylum, and it isn't DUMPING MISERY ON US for PEOPLE (HUMAN BEINGs, CODS, HUMAN BEINGS) to be granted refugee status.

Secondly, you'll remember that the COALITION ALSO HAD A PLAN FOR DEBT AND DEFICIT during the GFC. So they OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T THINK NO ONE WAS IN TROUBLE, CHINA WILL SAVE US. THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME THINGS BAR 20$ odd billion. WOW, the DEBT AND DEFICIT WOULD BE 20$B less. AND YET IT WOULD STILL BE A DEBT AND A DEFICIT.

So get your points straight, and lose the racism and dehumanizing commentary.

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