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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #60 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 8:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 6:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:28pm:

$33 billion write down in 3 months.

Govenment has proposed:
1. FBT changes. On review I think these are reasonable. FBT is an entitlement for work benefits and personal use needs to have tax on it. So, how do teachers, police, etc, those who tony wants to "end the hit" on use these lease vehicles for work? You can't claim to and from work. What Tavel for work is involve with these vehicles? And if none then id rather government pay our police, teachers, etc, more than suggest they continue to make use of a tax loop hole.
Anyway... TONY OPPOSES FBT.

2. Bank levy. TONY OPPOSES (at least by the sounds of his treasury idiot).

3. Sin tax. Tony is even here electioneering! I don't think I've seen a politican electioneer against rises to sin taxes.

Then there's:
1. Gonski he will keep.
2. His own proposed STOP THE BOATS measures
3. Private health rebate he will remove mean testing
4. Carbon tax he will cut but keep the revenue, and in place offer billions to deweed the country.
5. Mining tax he will scrap
6. Tax on $100,000+ super contributions he opposes
7. Proven underfunded paid parental leave.

So far, mr DEBT AND DEFICIT is opposed to all spending cuts proposed.

And what's he offered? $12 billion growth to GDP (not tax collection) by cutting red tape.

If we have a slowing economy and a structural problem to the budget then I'd prefer the party that offers some suggestion than the party that cries about the debt but offers no alternative and opposes all spending cuts.

How will tony return the budget to surplus?

well if you are so friggin' smart why not tell Abbott AND Rudd how to do it. Or are you so smug and stupid at the same time to not notice that the budget is in freefall under Labor?? It is in fact so bad and getting worse so fast that it is difficult to imagine Abbott doing worse. Rudd has NO IDEA what he is doing and never did. Swan was a well-meaning but useless buffoon.

But you dnnt have any ideas, do you - just allegiances.

Fairly sure in a previous post you told me it was really easy with the current spending of the Labor Government, and that Abbott needs to only cut spending by 50% and raise revenue by 70%. I asked you how he intended to do it. You offered no reply. Why?

probably because I didn't say it. That could be your first clue.

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #61 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #62 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:08am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

And you think the states major city flooding twice in 5 years is going to cost nothing ?

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #63 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 7:06am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:08am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

And you thing the states major city flooding twice in 5 years is going to cost nothing ?

QLDs debt has been building up for years... they only have themselves to blame for the floods as they never prepared and even built in flood prone areas...

but that's STATE government which has nothing to do with the Federal campaign...

why even bring it up>? Roll Eyes

but truth be known.... State Labor have left debt in their wake in nearly every state and now the Libs have to try and pay it back...

this is why they say that DEBT is in Labors DNA...

it doesn't matter whether its state of federal LABOR ALWAYS leaves us in DEBT when they are finally booted out...

so im unsure why anyone would ever vote for them again... puzzling.. Undecided

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #65 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:52am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

Ok, What about WA's debt? .... opps, there was none. If Qld really had an $80B debt, he could have had anyone audit the books for him ... the only reason he got Costello was because he needed someone who would lie for him. Thousands of qualified and competent auditors, and he chose Costello .... keep burying your head Longy

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #66 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:53am

stryder wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 7:55am:

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so im unsure why anyone would ever vote for them again... puzzling.. Undecided

Never underestimate the party of the people as labor party likes to call itself, they are crap at governing, but campaigning is a different story, they are better in that.

they are crap at governing, but campaigning is a different story, they are better in that

You can say that with a straight keyboard after the Howard government - amazing.

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #67 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

If Labor incurred the debt - leftards thinks the debt does not exist

If LIBs incur a small debt - leftards convince themselves to falsely multiply by 10

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #68 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:46am

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

Actually the track record really shows that only one Liberal government ever produced a surplus and that over 90% of them don't even go close.

The prospective Liberal government we are currently looking at shows all the signs of having no hope with extravagant spending locked in and a senior economic team which looks better suited to stand up fiscal comedy.

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #69 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:48am

Maqqa wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

the TRACK RECORD shows that a Liberal Government can deliver a surplus...

really? maybe you'd better tell the bean counters in Qld, NSW, WA and Vict. that they got it wrong.

not overnight you twit. Do you think QLD's $80B debt is going to be paid off in a year???

If Labor incurred the debt - leftards thinks the debt does not exist

If LIBs incur a small debt - leftards convince themselves to falsely multiply by 10

Does that try to explain how the last Howard surplus got from $14 B up to $30B or higher retrospectively ????

I think you will find some exaggeration from some individuals on all sides.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59347 Here Gender:	Re: How will tony save the budget? Reply #70 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:52am How will tony save the budget? He could stand down as leader ??? That might work.
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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #71 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am

you know righties I think we have been barking up the wrong tree for the past 6 years.. judging by the remarks from our lefty economic expurts on here...

we are flying high...the economy is going great can only get better because Howard destroyed it and took all incentives away from everyone and this lot have turned it all around and we are doing fantastic....

so how about we shut up.. we created an economic disaster and handed over a country in an appalling state of affairs. shame libs shame...

I have no idea what Bowen and kev the con are talking about with their long faces...

must be because they have so much money they dont know what to spend it on...

kevs on his way to church I am surprised his worshippers are on here and not following in his footsteps.. he has the POWER after all..

I wonder if kev will pray for a date???..I am sure he is waiting for a sign arent you?? Cheesy

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: How will tony save the budget? Reply #72 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 11:00am Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:52am: How will tony save the budget? He could stand down as leader ??? That might work. and you think so dont you.. changing leaders is what its all about.. isnt it?.. lololololololololol they think changing heads makes it work... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL
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Reply #73 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 11:21am

cods wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am:

you know righties I think we have been barking up the wrong tree for the past 6 years.. judging by the remarks from our lefty economic expurts on here...

we are flying high...the economy is going great can only get better because Howard destroyed it and took all incentives away from everyone and this lot have turned it all around and we are doing fantastic....

so how about we shut up.. we created an economic disaster and handed over a country in an appalling state of affairs. shame libs shame...

I have no idea what Bowen and kev the con are talking about with their long faces...

must be because they have so much money they dont know what to spend it on...

kevs on his way to church I am surprised his worshippers are on here and not following in his footsteps.. he has the POWER after all..

I wonder if kev will pray for a date???..I am sure he is waiting for a sign arent you??

???..I am sure he is waiting for a sign arent you??

Tony has a sign he is trying to sell ????

Do you think that Ditch the witch would do the job??? Or go for the Bob Browns Bitch ???

Maybe he could try "Murdock's mongrel Lap dog".

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Re: How will tony save the budget?
Reply #74 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 3:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 8:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 6:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:28pm:

$33 billion write down in 3 months.

Govenment has proposed:
1. FBT changes. On review I think these are reasonable. FBT is an entitlement for work benefits and personal use needs to have tax on it. So, how do teachers, police, etc, those who tony wants to "end the hit" on use these lease vehicles for work? You can't claim to and from work. What Tavel for work is involve with these vehicles? And if none then id rather government pay our police, teachers, etc, more than suggest they continue to make use of a tax loop hole.
Anyway... TONY OPPOSES FBT.

2. Bank levy. TONY OPPOSES (at least by the sounds of his treasury idiot).

3. Sin tax. Tony is even here electioneering! I don't think I've seen a politican electioneer against rises to sin taxes.

Then there's:
1. Gonski he will keep.
2. His own proposed STOP THE BOATS measures
3. Private health rebate he will remove mean testing
4. Carbon tax he will cut but keep the revenue, and in place offer billions to deweed the country.
5. Mining tax he will scrap
6. Tax on $100,000+ super contributions he opposes
7. Proven underfunded paid parental leave.

So far, mr DEBT AND DEFICIT is opposed to all spending cuts proposed.

And what's he offered? $12 billion growth to GDP (not tax collection) by cutting red tape.

If we have a slowing economy and a structural problem to the budget then I'd prefer the party that offers some suggestion than the party that cries about the debt but offers no alternative and opposes all spending cuts.

How will tony return the budget to surplus?

well if you are so friggin' smart why not tell Abbott AND Rudd how to do it. Or are you so smug and stupid at the same time to not notice that the budget is in freefall under Labor?? It is in fact so bad and getting worse so fast that it is difficult to imagine Abbott doing worse. Rudd has NO IDEA what he is doing and never did. Swan was a well-meaning but useless buffoon.

But you dnnt have any ideas, do you - just allegiances.

Fairly sure in a previous post you told me it was really easy with the current spending of the Labor Government, and that Abbott needs to only cut spending by 50% and raise revenue by 70%. I asked you how he intended to do it. You offered no reply. Why?

probably because I didn't say it. That could be your first clue.

What will tony cut?

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