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Reply #30 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Given that Howard is far away more popular than either of the two recent labor PMs it could be quite the boost.

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Reply #31 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Given that Howard is far away more popular than either of the two recent labor PMs it could be quite the boost.

Pretty sure Howard is not one of the ministers in opposition at the moment.

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Reply #32 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Why's that.
The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times and will so again.
Their more experienced, and have the runs on the board.
Labor is incompetent.
It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Labor candidate.

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Reply #33 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Why's that.
The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times and will so again.

Refresh my memory: who's in opposition at the moment?

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Reply #34 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Given that Howard is far away more popular than either of the two recent labor PMs it could be quite the boost.

He could re-run for Bennelong. Lose it twice !

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Reply #36 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Why's that.
The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times and will so again.

Refresh my memory: who's in opposition at the moment?

What has that to do with the price of eggs.
Governments change all the time.
And many of those in the current opposition have already served in a very successful government.
Labor cannot run away from the fact they are incompetent.

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Reply #38 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:34am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Why's that.
The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times and will so again.
Their more experienced, and have the runs on the board.
Labor is incompetent.
It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Labor candidate.

They are pathetic re-treads, and I'd be no more likely to vote for them now as when Howard was running the show.

The only reason the right want Abbott is because they pine for the days under Howard when they all paid no-where
near their fair share of tax, and raked the wealth-fare in as if there'd be no tomorrow.

Howard's conservatives did much harm to the country, and we are now ten+ years behind where we'd have been
with an actually half-decent government thru the 2000s.

The Howard years were wasted years, and it is pure insanity to want to go back to them.

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Reply #39 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Emma wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:35pm:

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I'd prefer another hung parliament..

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... how about a minority LIBERAL govt? ...

In light of Abbott's performance with the last hung election, how likely is that? In the unlikely event of Abbott negotiating minority government, how long would it last, given Abbott's deficiencies? Are you hoping for a change in the leadership of the Liberal party?

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Reply #40 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:53am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

The opposition contains many ministers who were in the Howard government ...

The ALP should use that line in their campaign.

It's certainly enough to discourage most intelligent people from voting for a Liberal candidate.

Why's that.
The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times and will so again.

Refresh my memory: who's in opposition at the moment?

What has that to do with the price of eggs.

Try to keep up dear boy.

"The electorate voted in favour of these ministers many times ... "

They didn't last time, did they?

Gotta love the Libs: living their lives in denial.

Grin

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Reply #41 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:54am

salad in wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:55pm:

... I can see all 20-year-olds press-ganged into the services.
...

Now there's an idea that will no doubt appeal to the Rabid Right. Anybody under 50 must be in:
- work;
- training/education or;
- the armed services.
It would make the unemployment figures look amazing!

salad in wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 7:55pm:

I'll come out and say that war with Tasmania or Chad will follow hot on the heels of an Abbott victory at the upcoming federal election.
...

It will evidently surprise you to hear that Tasmania is part of Australia. We do keep leaving it off the map, so your confusion is understandable.

It's most likely that Abbott's insensitivity, arrogance and intellectual laziness will lead to conflict with neighbours to our near north and north west. As for China, we'd best keep him away altogether.

Perhaps a muzzle?

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Reply #42 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:55am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

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What runs on the board?. The never ever GST?. Workchoices ( no choices?. ) The illegal Iraq war?. Sad

Is that all you have to say about the 12 glorious years of the Howard government.

"glorious"

So glorious that he and his glorious government was voted out.

Welcome to the real world. Grin

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Reply #43 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 11:00am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 5:16pm:

____ wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:13pm:

So why dump one old party for the other since there isn't much different between them.

One benefit with Rudd is he can speak a full sentence, even if it's cringeworthy. Imagine having Abbott represent Australia o/s.

So why change?

Labor is incompetent.
Haven't you worked that out yet?

I don't read Murdock or take political advice from fiction writers.

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Reply #44 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 11:04am

red baron wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 8:21am:

I will give you ONE BIG REASON, the Government is now attacking the personal savings of the orinary wage earner.

This is a desperate Government bereft of ideas.

Kevin Rudd has personally caused a financial disaster for Australians by his total mishandling of the Boats crisis and it is a crisis..a crisis of his making.

Now he is going into your own kids' bank accounts to pull his useless Government out of a hole he personally dug for us.

For no other reason this mob of imposters needs to go big time.

I will give you ONE BIG REASON, the Government is now attacking the personal savings of the orinary wage earner.

The previous conservative government made a much stronger attack on the average workers income, working conditions etc and there ability to have any personal savings at all.

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