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Reply #105 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:45pm
 
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:16pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:48pm:
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After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.


Only in the minds of the truly deluded.


I disagree.



Hardly surprising, you always do.

Doesn't make you right, though...


oh I don't know.  Just as with SOB and hangnail, disagreeing with you is 80% of being right.  The idea of you being right very often is preposterous.



I'll take that as an endorsement of the fact that I am actually usually correct.


an educated person wouldn't.  a fool, however... would.
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Reply #106 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:47pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:57pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:35pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
Actually that's also wrong longie.  First they were meant to be announced before budget.  Then after budget.  Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th. 

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you.  SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.


what nonsense.  for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.


any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again.  for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution.  You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).



Amazing isnt it.  Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS.  end the hit, Ey?  Grin
And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown.  Go back to your dreamland.


but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies?  We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending.  every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces.  You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious.  But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy.  After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.


Let's break it down for you
1. Government announces spending cuts.  Wankjob opposes them.
2. Government passes spending cuts.  Wankjob promises to repeal them.
3. Government announces spending (ndis/Gonski).  Wankjob agrees with spending.
4. Wankjob keeps yelling debt and deficit. But opposes all cuts and promises to repeal them.

That is why I can't vote for him.  Largely because it's moronic politics and moron policy. 

You claim spending has increased dramatically.  Well surely it should be easy to cut it back to END TE WASTE. Let's hear it.


spending cuts???  only in class-warfare based cuts. never across the board.  Super tax increases - for high earners.  Even the FBT changes were targeted at high earners except the bozo missed and hit mainly middle income earners.  Of course if he'd asked someone - anyone - outside of the lunch room where he devised this, he would have known that.

I would like you to honestly tell me that you think Labor can bring the budget back to surplus and pay off the debt EVER.  and a second question: do you really think Rudd is going to suddenly change and deliver well-considered, properly costed polices that will work... this time?  They are the questions you should be answering.  You don't have to like Abbott but to believe that Rudd is better than... frankly anyone, in the job of PM doesn't not sit well on you.


The difference is longie, rudd has at least laid out plans.  You may not agree with them, but he has put them on the table.

And wankjob?  Wankjob yells and yells and offers nothing. Stop ducking from the question and answer or p/off: what will tony cut? 


oh for goodness sake... the election is THREE HOURS OLD.  Even an SOB would at least grant Abbott a few days to start announcing policies.  Why cant you.

and wht has Rudd really announced???  more taxes on bank accounts.  more taxes on FBT affecting mainly middle income earners and more taxes on cigarettes.  not really big ticket items, is it?  so where is Rudds REAL POLICIES??

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
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Reply #108 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:55pm
 
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Reply #109 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 8:06pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:47pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:57pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:35pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
Actually that's also wrong longie.  First they were meant to be announced before budget.  Then after budget.  Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th. 

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you.  SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.


what nonsense.  for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.


any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again.  for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution.  You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).



Amazing isnt it.  Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS.  end the hit, Ey?  Grin
And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown.  Go back to your dreamland.


but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies?  We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending.  every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces.  You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious.  But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy.  After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.


Let's break it down for you
1. Government announces spending cuts.  Wankjob opposes them.
2. Government passes spending cuts.  Wankjob promises to repeal them.
3. Government announces spending (ndis/Gonski).  Wankjob agrees with spending.
4. Wankjob keeps yelling debt and deficit. But opposes all cuts and promises to repeal them.

That is why I can't vote for him.  Largely because it's moronic politics and moron policy. 

You claim spending has increased dramatically.  Well surely it should be easy to cut it back to END TE WASTE. Let's hear it.


spending cuts???  only in class-warfare based cuts. never across the board.  Super tax increases - for high earners.  Even the FBT changes were targeted at high earners except the bozo missed and hit mainly middle income earners.  Of course if he'd asked someone - anyone - outside of the lunch room where he devised this, he would have known that.

I would like you to honestly tell me that you think Labor can bring the budget back to surplus and pay off the debt EVER.  and a second question: do you really think Rudd is going to suddenly change and deliver well-considered, properly costed polices that will work... this time?  They are the questions you should be answering.  You don't have to like Abbott but to believe that Rudd is better than... frankly anyone, in the job of PM doesn't not sit well on you.


The difference is longie, rudd has at least laid out plans.  You may not agree with them, but he has put them on the table.

And wankjob?  Wankjob yells and yells and offers nothing. Stop ducking from the question and answer or p/off: what will tony cut? 


oh for goodness sake... the election is THREE HOURS OLD.  Even an SOB would at least grant Abbott a few days to start announcing policies.  Why cant you.

and wht has Rudd really announced???  more taxes on bank accounts.  more taxes on FBT affecting mainly middle income earners and more taxes on cigarettes.  not really big ticket items, is it?  so where is Rudds REAL POLICIES??



I'm not talking about election.  3 years of yelling "DEBT AND DEFICIT"and pledging to END THE WASTE, and yet when it comes down to it he accepts all labors big ticket spending and refuses to support ANY CUTS. 

You claim its very easy to find spending cuts.  Stop the circular arguing and avoiding. How will tony bring us back yo budget?  Enough living in fairy land.
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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #110 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 8:14pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 8:06pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:47pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:57pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:35pm:
[quote author=longweekend58 link=1375596290/73#73 date=1375604822][quote author=alevine link=1375596290/70#70 date=1375604543]Actually that's also wrong longie.  First they were meant to be announced before budget.  Then after budget.  Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th. 

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you.  SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.



but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies?  We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending.  every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces.  You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious.  But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy.  After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.


Let's break it down for you
1. Government announces spending cuts.  Wankjob opposes them.
2. Government passes spending cuts.  Wankjob promises to repeal them.
3. Government announces spending (ndis/Gonski).  Wankjob agrees with spending.
4. Wankjob keeps yelling debt and deficit. But opposes all cuts and promises to repeal them.

That is why I can't vote for him.  Largely because it's moronic politics and moron policy. 

You claim spending has increased dramatically.  Well surely it should be easy to cut it back to END TE WASTE. Let's hear it.


spending cuts???  only in class-warfare based cuts. never across the board.  Super tax increases - for high earners.  Even the FBT changes were targeted at high earners except the bozo missed and hit mainly middle income earners.  Of course if he'd asked someone - anyone - outside of the lunch room where he devised this, he would have known that.

I would like you to honestly tell me that you think Labor can bring the budget back to surplus and pay off the debt EVER.  and a second question: do you really think Rudd is going to suddenly change and deliver well-considered, properly costed polices that will work... this time?  They are the questions you should be answering.  You don't have to like Abbott but to believe that Rudd is better than... frankly anyone, in the job of PM doesn't not sit well on you.


The difference is longie, rudd has at least laid out plans.  You may not agree with them, but he has put them on the table.

And wankjob?  Wankjob yells and yells and offers nothing. Stop ducking from the question and answer or p/off: what will tony cut? 


oh for goodness sake... the election is THREE HOURS OLD.  Even an SOB would at least grant Abbott a few days to start announcing policies.  Why cant you.

and wht has Rudd really announced???  more taxes on bank accounts.  more taxes on FBT affecting mainly middle income earners and more taxes on cigarettes.  not really big ticket items, is it?  so where is Rudds REAL POLICIES??



I'm not talking about election.  3 years of yelling "DEBT AND DEFICIT"and pledging to END THE WASTE, and yet when it comes down to it he accepts all labors big ticket spending and refuses to support ANY CUTS. 

You claim its very easy to find spending cuts.  Stop the circular arguing and avoiding. How will tony bring us back yo budget?  Enough living in fairy land.


I can give you the longweekend58 policy on spending cuts. And I am sure you can give me the alevine policy on spending cuts. But until such time as Rudd and Abbott both announce their detailed policies we cannot discuss them.  I presume that is understood.  If this were skippy or SOB I would not assume that. 

Actually Abbott hasn't supported Labors big ticket items. That is just your desperate take on things.  CT, NBN anyone??  and the problem with labors spending cuts - such as they are - is that they ALWAYS target the upper end, not across the board.  While it might suit you politically and personally to do so, the money saved is trivial in the context of a massive deficit.  the money saved by the proposed high income super changes will net a total of $400m pa - enough to cover government borrowings for 4 days!  NDIS is worthwhile but in true labor fashion, totally unfunded.  GONSKI is just another delusional policy that is typical labor. throw more money at aproblema nd pretend that that is a solution.
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Reply #112 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 8:54pm
 
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Opposition Leader Tony Abbott responds to news the election has been called for September 7.

''Australia is too open and positive a nation to retreat into a tight little ball of negativity,'' he said.


FMR....

But a ball the size of the moon, like he has been batting around for the past 3+ years, is OK.....

Wanker!!!!

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anyone Voting for Wikileaks?
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Reply #114 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 8:57pm
 
You will notice longie that I'm not asking for longweekends spending cuts, but asking what proposals have come from wankjob?  It really isn't that hard.

He supports ndis
He supports Gonski
He supports compensation for CT but wants to rid of CT and spend government money to deweed the nation
He is against FBT
He is against health rebate means tests
He is against bank levy
He wants to rid of mining tax
He is against tobacco excise increase

So... What is mr end the waste for and how will he return to surplus?  Why is it so hard for you to answer?
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Reply #115 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:45pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:16pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:13pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Kat wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 6:48pm:
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After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.


Only in the minds of the truly deluded.


I disagree.



Hardly surprising, you always do.

Doesn't make you right, though...


oh I don't know.  Just as with SOB and hangnail, disagreeing with you is 80% of being right.  The idea of you being right very often is preposterous.



I'll take that as an endorsement of the fact that I am actually usually correct.


an educated person wouldn't.  a fool, however... would.


as if you'd have any idea what an educated person would do !!!!  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #116 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:13pm
 
Ok, so when will Abbott release his raft of policies ... he has no more excuses now to provide costing's either. Time to cough up.
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Reply #117 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:17pm
 
Bring on the debate....

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Reply #118 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:13pm:
Ok, so when will Abbott release his raft of policies ... he has no more excuses now to provide costing's either. Time to cough up.

expect them on Sept 8th.
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Reply #119 - Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:25pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2013 at 9:13pm:
Ok, so when will Abbott release his raft of policies ... he has no more excuses now to provide costing's either. Time to cough up.

expect them on Sept 8th.


yeah right .... by then he'll be whinging that we should go to another election again.
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