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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #45 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:40pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

salad in wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

If the polls are correct it will be tight. Various poll numbers range from 50/50 to 51/49 etc. The choice for the punters will be who not to vote for or which party will cause the least amount of damage to Australia.

Interesting times ahead.

The fact the polls are already 50/50 is interesting given in an election campaign they get even tighter. Australia has a history of close elections, longwhinyfool calling -53/47 just shows why longwhinyfool is a suitable nick for him.
I doubt we will se a poll over the next five weeks more than two points difference. The voters have to get serious now and so all the huffing and puffing saying they will support phoney Tony that has gone on in the past three years will evaporate as has been evident since Rudds return.
Another hung parliament is the most likly scenario, which means another three years of a minority Labor government given the GREENS and independents will support Labor over phoney Tony. Katter has already gone on record saying he will back Rudd if a hung parliament occurs and Wilkie would be unlikely to support phony Tony too. This will probably all end in tears for the conga line. Grin

history of close election???? precisely TWO minority govts in 112 years???

There's not much you know of political history, is there?

Close means 51/49 or even 52/48 , but your dementia riddled brain would battle to get around that.

52/48 usually means a margin of 20 seats. by no rational definition is that CLOSE.

A delusional pedantic fvckwit on the verge of dementia would think that.

no... professional analysts say so. 'close' is 3-5 seats not 20 you literally dumb bunny.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #46 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

There will need to be significant cuts in the budget.

Did you sleep through that mini budget from this week?

Their much vaunted surplus for 2013/14 has been turned into a $33 bn DEFICIT!!!

The Australian economy since 2007 has been run into the ground and is now in awful condition of debt and deficits.

Public spending needs to be cut, foreign aid needs to be cut and taxes need to be streamlined.

The last 6 years have seen the economy go south wards.

Thank you for your usual summary of a newspaper. And for proving the point that we don't need a man who disagrees with spending cuts, but someone who actually understands the problems with the budget.

Rudd??? Labor???? how do you come to THAT conclusion????

Well if its a choice between Rudd Bowen and Wong vs wankjob, idiot and moron.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #47 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Do you not think there should be a consequence to a Government that promises the people a surplus come hell or high water, then actually produces a $33bn deficit?

No.

It's economic forecasting, not science.

that explains your belief in ACC. the models don't nee to be close or even remotely accurate for you to 'believe'.

ACC? Anthropogenic Climate Change? Is that what you mean?

You do realise that I'm probably the most sceptical person on this forum when it comes to ACC/AGW don't you?

then why do you treat a fiscal forecast miss by $34B as nothing? After all, it is only 6 continual years of missing targets by a mile!

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #48 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

There will need to be significant cuts in the budget.

Did you sleep through that mini budget from this week?

Their much vaunted surplus for 2013/14 has been turned into a $33 bn DEFICIT!!!

The Australian economy since 2007 has been run into the ground and is now in awful condition of debt and deficits.

Public spending needs to be cut, foreign aid needs to be cut and taxes need to be streamlined.

The last 6 years have seen the economy go south wards.

Thank you for your usual summary of a newspaper. And for proving the point that we don't need a man who disagrees with spending cuts, but someone who actually understands the problems with the budget.

Rudd??? Labor???? how do you come to THAT conclusion????

Well if its a choice between Rudd Bowen and Wong vs wankjob, idiot and moron.

Did you call LW partisan?

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #49 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:43pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

There will need to be significant cuts in the budget.

Did you sleep through that mini budget from this week?

Their much vaunted surplus for 2013/14 has been turned into a $33 bn DEFICIT!!!

The Australian economy since 2007 has been run into the ground and is now in awful condition of debt and deficits.

Public spending needs to be cut, foreign aid needs to be cut and taxes need to be streamlined.

The last 6 years have seen the economy go south wards.

Thank you for your usual summary of a newspaper. And for proving the point that we don't need a man who disagrees with spending cuts, but someone who actually understands the problems with the budget.

Rudd??? Labor???? how do you come to THAT conclusion????

Well if its a choice between Rudd Bowen and Wong vs wankjob, idiot and moron.

that was a lastnail type respone. obviously you think labor are economic duds but your partisanship makes it impossible for you to say so.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #50 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Do you not think there should be a consequence to a Government that promises the people a surplus come hell or high water, then actually produces a $33bn deficit?

No.

It's economic forecasting, not science.

that explains your belief in ACC. the models don't nee to be close or even remotely accurate for you to 'believe'.

What on earth are you talking about?

you seem very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target and yet still believe ie Labor and ACCC

Oh, it's the ACCC now, not ACC.

When have I ever mentioned the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission in this forum?

Or, did you mean ACCCC, or some other ACCC?

Please make yourself clear.

And, I never said I was "very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target". Not once. Not here or anywhere else.

Stop making poo up.

Seriously.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #51 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Do you not think there should be a consequence to a Government that promises the people a surplus come hell or high water, then actually produces a $33bn deficit?

No.

It's economic forecasting, not science.

that explains your belief in ACC. the models don't nee to be close or even remotely accurate for you to 'believe'.

What on earth are you talking about?

you seem very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target and yet still believe ie Labor and ACCC

Oh, it's the ACCC now, not ACC.

When have I ever mentioned the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission in this forum?

Or, did you mean ACCCC, or some other ACCC?

Please make yourself clear.

And, I never said I was "very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target". Not once. Not here or anywhere else.

Stop making poo up.

Seriously.

then be unequivocal and tell us that Labors fiscal planning and predictions are crap. a $33B miss is about as bad as it gets

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #52 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Do you not think there should be a consequence to a Government that promises the people a surplus come hell or high water, then actually produces a $33bn deficit?

No.

It's economic forecasting, not science.

that explains your belief in ACC. the models don't nee to be close or even remotely accurate for you to 'believe'.

ACC? Anthropogenic Climate Change? Is that what you mean?

You do realise that I'm probably the most sceptical person on this forum when it comes to ACC/AGW don't you?

then why do you treat a fiscal forecast miss by $34B as nothing? After all, it is only 6 continual years of missing targets by a mile!

Please show me where I described "a fiscal forecast miss by $34B as nothing".

Once again: never said it, here or anywhere else.

Why do you keep making this poo up?

Attack me on things I've actually said: that's fine. But don't just make poo up.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #53 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Do you not think there should be a consequence to a Government that promises the people a surplus come hell or high water, then actually produces a $33bn deficit?

No.

It's economic forecasting, not science.

that explains your belief in ACC. the models don't nee to be close or even remotely accurate for you to 'believe'.

What on earth are you talking about?

you seem very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target and yet still believe ie Labor and ACCC

Oh, it's the ACCC now, not ACC.

When have I ever mentioned the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission in this forum?

Or, did you mean ACCCC, or some other ACCC?

Please make yourself clear.

And, I never said I was "very happy for a forecast/prediction to be massively off-target". Not once. Not here or anywhere else.

Stop making poo up.

Seriously.

then be unequivocal ... a $33B miss is about as bad as it gets

Yep, sure is.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #54 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:51pm

unless we get the Australian manufacturing industry going again unemployment will continue to rise and rise...

one of the best ways of doing this would be to get rid of one of the biggest abominable lies off all time...

The Carbon Tax....

there's only one Party that says they will get rid of it...

so for those people who didn't fall for the biggest con of all time and want to see the back of it, the choice is simple...

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #55 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

salad in wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

If the polls are correct it will be tight. Various poll numbers range from 50/50 to 51/49 etc. The choice for the punters will be who not to vote for or which party will cause the least amount of damage to Australia.

Interesting times ahead.

The fact the polls are already 50/50 is interesting given in an election campaign they get even tighter. Australia has a history of close elections, longwhinyfool calling -53/47 just shows why longwhinyfool is a suitable nick for him.
I doubt we will se a poll over the next five weeks more than two points difference. The voters have to get serious now and so all the huffing and puffing saying they will support phoney Tony that has gone on in the past three years will evaporate as has been evident since Rudds return.
Another hung parliament is the most likly scenario, which means another three years of a minority Labor government given the GREENS and independents will support Labor over phoney Tony. Katter has already gone on record saying he will back Rudd if a hung parliament occurs and Wilkie would be unlikely to support phony Tony too. This will probably all end in tears for the conga line. Grin

history of close election???? precisely TWO minority govts in 112 years???

There's not much you know of political history, is there?

Close means 51/49 or even 52/48 , but your dementia riddled brain would battle to get around that.

52/48 usually means a margin of 20 seats. by no rational definition is that CLOSE.

A delusional pedantic fvckwit on the verge of dementia would think that.

no... professional analysts say so. 'close' is 3-5 seats not 20 you literally dumb bunny.

LOL at you, fool.
Hawke won an Election with 49.9 percent of the vote and a majority of 78 to 69 seats, dickwad, your percentages mean bugger all.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #57 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

True Blue... wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

unless we get the Australian manufacturing industry going again unemployment will continue to rise and rise...

one of the best ways of doing this would be to get rid of one of the biggest abominable lies off all time...

The Carbon Tax....

there's only one Party that says they will get rid of it...

so for those people who didn't fall for the biggest con of all time and want to see the back of it, the choice is simple...

The carbon tax can stay, get rid of the GST because it is a regressive tax that stifles the economy, put taxes where they belong progressively on private industries that manufacture overseas and lets build Australias new publicly owned collectivist manufacturing industries and defend ourselves from capitalist organized crime....

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #58 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

There will need to be significant cuts in the budget.

Did you sleep through that mini budget from this week?

Their much vaunted surplus for 2013/14 has been turned into a $33 bn DEFICIT!!!

The Australian economy since 2007 has been run into the ground and is now in awful condition of debt and deficits.

Public spending needs to be cut, foreign aid needs to be cut and taxes need to be streamlined.

The last 6 years have seen the economy go south wards.

Thank you for your usual summary of a newspaper. And for proving the point that we don't need a man who disagrees with spending cuts, but someone who actually understands the problems with the budget.

Rudd??? Labor???? how do you come to THAT conclusion????

Well if its a choice between Rudd Bowen and Wong vs wankjob, idiot and moron.

that was a lastnail type respone. obviously you think labor are economic duds but your partisanship makes it impossible for you to say so.

Says the man who is voting for Mr end the waste only no plan on how to do it. He must be an economic genius!!!!!

Grin

. And mine might be a last nail response, but you my friend have become worse than Matty. Seriously, you are blindly following the wank job and have turned intoone of those tea party hacks you despised only 2 yrs ago.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #59 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:58pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 5:51pm: