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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #75 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:15pm:

I am not going into it further again.

My views on that pisshead and his sell out of Australian workers are clear.

Carry on......

Yes, they are indeed, Mr Hicks, and Hawke was totally correct when he called your Father's bluff. He came to the Casino and wanted to gamble on your future, and he lost. I'll keep saying that whenever you raise the issue. Your Father, like every Pilot, was a 'glorified bus driver,' nothing more.

You can get fked.

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Reply #77 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

for the last year we have been telling you that coalition policies will be in large measure announced during an actual real not-fake election campaign. given that it is barely 2 hours old and I am not in th inner circle is it not too much to ask that you actually wait for the policy announcements?

Yes and now we have barely weeks.
The small business policy you posted didn't set the world on fire and yet again no real detail.
But the excuse has disappeared so I'll expect to see a far bit over the next 2 weeks.
I hope I'm wrong but I reckon I'll be lucky to see any costings before 30/8, but hey I'm sure you agree nows the time and be just as dissappointed if they hold off costings until the last possible moment.

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

IN the meantime feel free to tell me Labors plans to cut the waste and return the budget to surplus. I presume of course that they have a plan, right? And it will be ahem... a plan that will work - this time?

You know labors plan, you bitch about it everyday, your against every savings measure from means testing the PHR to re-writing the FBT.

Whats Tony's savings measures, who knows?

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Reply #78 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Actually that's also wrong longie. First they were meant to be announced before budget. Then after budget. Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th.

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you. SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.

what nonsense. for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.

any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again. for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution. You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).

Amazing isnt it. Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS. end the hit, Ey? Grin

And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown. Go back to your dreamland.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #79 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:41pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

for the last year we have been telling you that coalition policies will be in large measure announced during an actual real not-fake election campaign. given that it is barely 2 hours old and I am not in th inner circle is it not too much to ask that you actually wait for the policy announcements?

Yes and now we have barely weeks.
The small business policy you posted didn't set the world on fire and yet again no real detail.
But the excuse has disappeared so I'll expect to see a far bit over the next 2 weeks.
I hope I'm wrong but I reckon I'll be lucky to see any costings before 30/8, but hey I'm sure you agree nows the time and be just as dissappointed if they hold off costings until the last possible moment.

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

IN the meantime feel free to tell me Labors plans to cut the waste and return the budget to surplus. I presume of course that they have a plan, right? And it will be ahem... a plan that will work - this time?

You know labors plan, you bitch about it everyday, your against every savings measure from means testing the PHR to re-writing the FBT.

Whats Tony's savings measures, who knows?

the problem is that there is little point in discussing policy with you. It doesn't matter what Abbott proposes, you will reject it for any one of a group of artificial reasons. And yet, you embrace Rudd with a passion that defies you otherwise obvious intelligence. The man is a first rate fool. Everything he touches turns to crap. Every policy was designed over lunch and costed on a calculator. You would be hard pressed to point to a single policy that has worked and certainly not one that was cheap and effective. yet you give him the benefit of the doubt again and again. There is almost no standard of 'bad PM' that Rudd could not go below. I don't know if Abbott will be a good or a poor PM. Nobody does. But I am damned sure that virtually nobody could be more arrogant, more egotistical and more disaster-prone than Rudd.

In summary, an intelligent person would by default NOT vote labor. So why are you?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #80 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Actually that's also wrong longie. First they were meant to be announced before budget. Then after budget. Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th.

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you. SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.

what nonsense. for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.

any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again. for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution. You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).

Amazing isnt it. Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS. end the hit, Ey? Grin

And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown. Go back to your dreamland.

but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies? We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending. every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces. You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious. But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy. After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.

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Reply #81 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:45pm

Kevin RUDD is was and always has been a policy maker on the run. This is fly by the seat of your pants Governance.

Now he wants to raid everyones' bank account from 1day to 100 years, at least he doesn't discriminate, everyone gets it between the eyes.

This arsehole is going down for the count on the tax on bank accounts alone.

Surely he is the biggest dickhead ever to go into a campaign...announcing a tax on bank accounts four weeks out from an election...What a dope!

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13 Reply #82 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:48pm Quote: After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years. Only in the minds of the truly deluded.
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Reply #83 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:49pm

Kat wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

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After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.

Only in the minds of the truly deluded.

actually, in the minds of those who care and take note of more than the level of the dole which is your SOLE interest. and BTW labor even failed you on that.

please don't vote liberal. We take almost anyone's vote. but we really don't want yours.

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13 Reply #84 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:51pm Rudd failed miserably ... he was a pathetic Prime Minister, and so was his govt. Labor replaced him with Gillard, she was even worse...so Labor replaced her with Rudd, the pathetic PM they dumped previously.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13 Reply #85 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:54pm bambu wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:51pm: Rudd failed miserably ... he was a pathetic Prime Minister, and so was his govt. Labor replaced him with Gillard, she was even worse...so Labor replaced her with Rudd, the pathetic PM they dumped previously. and yet the labor drongos want more of the same.
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Reply #86 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Actually that's also wrong longie. First they were meant to be announced before budget. Then after budget. Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th.

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you. SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.

what nonsense. for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.

any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again. for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution. You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).

Amazing isnt it. Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS. end the hit, Ey? Grin

And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown. Go back to your dreamland.

but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies? We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending. every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces. You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious. But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy. After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.

Let's break it down for you
1. Government announces spending cuts. Wankjob opposes them.
2. Government passes spending cuts. Wankjob promises to repeal them.
3. Government announces spending (ndis/Gonski). Wankjob agrees with spending.
4. Wankjob keeps yelling debt and deficit. But opposes all cuts and promises to repeal them.

That is why I can't vote for him. Largely because it's moronic politics and moron policy.

You claim spending has increased dramatically. Well surely it should be easy to cut it back to END TE WASTE. Let's hear it.

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Re: We Are In Election Mode ~ 7/9/13
Reply #87 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:54pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:51pm:

Rudd failed miserably ... he was a pathetic Prime Minister, and so was his govt.
Labor replaced him with Gillard, she was even worse...so Labor replaced her with Rudd, the pathetic PM they dumped previously.

and yet the labor drongos want more of the same.

Yes, not the sharpest tools in the shed.

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Reply #88 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 7:02pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Actually that's also wrong longie. First they were meant to be announced before budget. Then after budget. Now it's election. But not costed and still don't know when: probably sept 8th.

Come on mr intellect: labor has increased spending by 70% and revenue grew by 50% according to you. SURELY FOR MR END THE WASTE GIVEN THESE FIGURES IT ISN'T TOO HARD TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE SPENDING CUTS WILL Be??

Back to your fairyland. You are a disgrace.

what nonsense. for the last 6 months, every other week has shown a massive change in the govts fiscal position meaning that they are either lying or totally lost control of the economy.

any how fool... when you can show me a detailed prescription for balancing the budget from that mob of buffoons who in 6 years have given us the 6 largest deficits ever, then come back and try again. for now, you are just screaming because you know Labor are headed to political execution. You can smell it just as everyone else can (except skippy of course).

Amazing isnt it. Your argument is that a party who HAS announced spending cuts can't do it but apparently your wankjob can, by only screaming debt and deficit and end the waste, without announcing one thing and opposing ALL CUTS. end the hit, Ey? Grin

And my dismay is not for labor, but more for this country, because we are bound for pure lunacy.
Ridiculous clown. Go back to your dreamland.

but its labor and this is about the 35th time we've heard 'spending cuts' from them and with the result being MORE spending and MORE debt every time. At what point do you stop simply believing Labors policies? We were having spending cuts every budget since 2008 and every single one of them has shown significant real INCREASES in spending. every single one.

The real question is why you could possibly believe a single word or policy that this mob of clowns announces. You don't have to like Abbott and you are even entitled to feel justificably dubious. But to continue to believe that labor can deliver a single thing it promises is lunacy. After all, they have failed on every metric possible in 6 years.

Let's break it down for you
1. Government announces spending cuts. Wankjob opposes them.
2. Government passes spending cuts. Wankjob promises to repeal them.
3. Government announces spending (ndis/Gonski). Wankjob agrees with spending.
4. Wankjob keeps yelling debt and deficit. But opposes all cuts and promises to repeal them.

That is why I can't vote for him. Largely because it's moronic politics and moron policy.

You claim spending has increased dramatically. Well surely it should be easy to cut it back to END TE WASTE. Let's hear it.

spending cuts??? only in class-warfare based cuts. never across the board. Super tax increases - for high earners. Even the FBT changes were targeted at high earners except the bozo missed and hit mainly middle income earners. Of course if he'd asked someone - anyone - outside of the lunch room where he devised this, he would have known that.

I would like you to honestly tell me that you think Labor can bring the budget back to surplus and pay off the debt EVER. and a second question: do you really think Rudd is going to suddenly change and deliver well-considered, properly costed polices that will work... this time? They are the questions you should be answering. You don't have to like Abbott but to believe that Rudd is better than... frankly anyone, in the job of PM doesn't not sit well on you.

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Reply #89 - Aug 4^th, 2013 at 7:03pm

bambu wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:54pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 4^th, 2013 at 6:51pm:

Rudd failed miserably ... he was a pathetic Prime Minister, and so was his govt.
Labor replaced him with Gillard, she was even worse...so Labor replaced her with Rudd, the pathetic PM they dumped previously.

and yet the labor drongos want more of the same.

Yes, not the sharpest tools in the shed.

public school, no degrees and welfare dependant. that is their heartland.

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