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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #45 - Aug 30^th, 2013 at 7:13am ... and the responses?
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #46 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 10:03am Look at the OP of this thread...??? CO2 and temperature don't correlate..??? Case closed.....!!!
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #47 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 4:03pm Ajax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 10:03am: ... CO2 and temperature don't correlate..??? ... The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise, it seems. Perhaps you're missing something.
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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #48 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:36pm

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Ajax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 10:03am:

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CO2 and temperature don't correlate..???
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The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise, it seems. Perhaps you're missing something.

Show me where CO2 & temperature correlate through our history.......??????

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #49 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 8:48pm

Ajax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2013 at 5:36pm:

Show me where CO2 & temperature correlate through our history.......??????

CO2 green line derived from ice cores obtained at Law Dome, East Antarctica (CDIAC). CO2 blue line measured at Mauna Loa (NOAA). Global temperature anomaly (GISS)

Correlation coefficient : +0.86. (That's a strong correlation)

OK? Case closed. (See, I can say that too)

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #50 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am Hey muso are you here to debate global warming...? OR Are you here to push the AGW religion on to the unsuspecting...??? Which one is dude........???? There is no correlation between CO2 and temperature...!!! Case Closed
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #51 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 9:21pm Ajax wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am: ... There is no correlation between CO2 and temperature...!!! The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise, it seems. Ajax wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am: ... Case Closed Temper, temper!
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature Reply #52 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:21pm Ajax wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am: There is no correlation between CO2 and temperature...!!! So you are claiming that CO2 is not a greenhouse house
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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #53 - Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 10:17am

Ajax wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

There is no correlation between CO2 and temperature...!!!

Do you understand the term correlation?
Do you understand correlation coefficient?
The correlation coefficient is 0.86 for the data I presented. It looks very similar to the data you presented. That's a strong correlation for a natural system.

The strongest correlation is in the last 50 years.

There is also a correlation when it comes to major events such as glaciations. In those cases, the variation in solar irradiance due to teh changing orbit of the Earth gives rise to heating and cooling, which releases CO2 from the biosphere. Then there is additional heating from the CO2 that is released.

There is not only correlation, there is causation.

Hadcrut 3v is an obsolete dataset.

I don't think you're a very technical person.

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #55 - Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 1:52pm

muso wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 10:17am:

Do you understand the term correlation?
Do you understand correlation coefficient?
The correlation coefficient is 0.86 for the data I presented. It looks very similar to the data you presented. That's a strong correlation for a natural system.

The strongest correlation is in the last 50 years.

There is also a correlation when it comes to major events such as glaciations. In those cases, the variation in solar irradiance due to teh changing orbit of the Earth gives rise to heating and cooling, which releases CO2 from the biosphere. Then there is additional heating from the CO2 that is released.

There is not only correlation, there is causation.

Hadcrut 3v is an obsolete dataset.

I don't think you're a very technical person.

Where is your proof.......???

I have shown you that CO2 & temperature don't correlate not in short time span not in a long time span.

In a medium time span they look as though they do, but they don't its just the scale we're zoomed out at.

Isn't funny that all the global warming alarmist blogs and sites use these medium time span chart to show the correlation.

That's why most people are going to give AGW the BOOT.

They're sick and tired of being presented with cheery picked information to suit the AGW cause instead of getting the whole picture.

There on to it, which means your religion is headed for the dust bin where it belongs.

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #56 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 1:52pm:

muso wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 10:17am:

I don't think you're a very technical person.

Where is your proof.......???

I have shown you that CO2 & temperature don't correlate not in short time span not in a long time span.

Your lack of ability with simple arithmetic and the fact that you don't understand the concept of correlation.

Oh, and let's not forget your predilection for ignoring the totality of the data by focusing on cherry-picked periods of time too short to rise to the level of statistical significance.

Then there was this article. You swallowed it hook line and sinker as did the webmaster. It sailed right over your head that this was a very funny and carefully scripted parody of climate change denialism. It just demonstrates that you will swallow any piece of nonsense to further your anti-scientific advocacy.

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University Of Colorado Radar Altimetry Is Pretty Much Useless For Measuring Sea Level

Satellite Measured Sea Level Is Measuring Ocean Heat
By Ed Caryl

Sometime in the last year, someone commented in some article that sea level rise as observed by satellite radar altimetry was overstated due to the fact that as warm water expands, it gets lighter, gravity has less pull on it, and it bulges up. Since then, a couple of global maps have come to my attention. First, a map of sea level rise.

That about sums up my proof that you're not a very technical person.

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #57 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm

muso wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 1:52pm:

muso wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2013 at 10:17am:

I don't think you're a very technical person.

Where is your proof.......???

I have shown you that CO2 & temperature don't correlate not in short time span not in a long time span.

Your lack of ability with simple arithmetic and the fact that you don't understand the concept of correlation.

Oh, and let's not forget your predilection for ignoring the totality of the data by focusing on cherry-picked periods of time too short to rise to the level of statistical significance.

Then there was this article. You swallowed it hook line and sinker as did the webmaster. It sailed right over your head that this was a very funny and carefully scripted parody of climate change denialism. It just demonstrates that you will swallow any piece of nonsense to further your anti-scientific advocacy.

Quote:

University Of Colorado Radar Altimetry Is Pretty Much Useless For Measuring Sea Level

Satellite Measured Sea Level Is Measuring Ocean Heat
By Ed Caryl

Sometime in the last year, someone commented in some article that sea level rise as observed by satellite radar altimetry was overstated due to the fact that as warm water expands, it gets lighter, gravity has less pull on it, and it bulges up. Since then, a couple of global maps have come to my attention. First, a map of sea level rise.

That about sums up my proof that you're not a very technical person.

The only things your posts sum up are that you in now way will accept that the warming in the last 100 years can be attributed to anything else but MANMADE CO2.

With such a narrow & biased perspective you really do miss out on the overall picture dude.

I thought closed minds where for the uneducated.

How wrong was I........................!!!

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #58 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 2:14pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

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The only things your posts sum up are that you in now way will accept that the warming in the last 100 years can be attributed to anything else but MANMADE CO2.
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Ajax, in principle, all things are possible.

Now all you need to do is get the vast majority of the best qualified to share your faith.

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Re: Is there any correlation between CO2 & temperature
Reply #59 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 4:02pm

# wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

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The only things your posts sum up are that you in now way will accept that the warming in the last 100 years can be attributed to anything else but MANMADE CO2.
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Ajax, in principle, all things are possible.

Now all you need to do is get the vast majority of the best qualified to share your faith.

Please.....you keep quoting the sceptical science blog run by John Cook who couldn't even get the consensus on global warming right.....???

Simon says put your hand on your...xxxx...and start.......... Kiss

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