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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday. Reply #15 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 12:58pm Oh GOODY, I will look forward to that? NOT!!!
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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #16 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:18pm

Verge wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 10:08am:

I remember Abbotts performances in the people's forums in 2010. He was very good, very convincing but most importantly he then went on to tell people what his plans were, and he explained his position on matters.

Then the idiot walks out of the room and winds back up in attack dog three word slogan mode and his message was completley lost.

Based on the peoples forums I watched I wouldnt underestimate Abbott. As long as he focuses on what he is going to do and not what Labor has done and projects positivity like he did in those forums, he could very well take them out.

You underestimate your opponent at your own peril.

I work with someone who used to work with Abbott before politics and he has nothing but praised for him as a very impressive, very talented and very passionate person. He DOES suffer from foot-in-mouth disease and always has but as my friend commented 'most people consider that to be honesty!'

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #17 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:21pm

Verge wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 12:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

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More election debates, the better: Wong

From: AAP
August 09, 2013
The Australian.

LABOR wants as many federal election debates as possible, its campaign spokeswoman Penny Wong says.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott will face off on Sunday night in the first debate of the federal election campaign.

Senator Wong says the conditions of Sunday's debate are still being negotiated, but she says Labor wants more debates than the Liberals have offered.

"We are in the cart for as many debates as possible. Kevin Rudd's made that clear," Senator Wong told ABC radio in Melbourne.

"He offered to debate Tony Abbott, I think every week, in a number of debates between now and the election.

"Mr Abbott's been, I think, somewhat reluctant." Sad

The Liberals want Sunday leaders' debate plus two people's forums - one in western Sydney and one in Brisbane.

Sunday's debate will be held at the National Press Club at 6.30pm (AEST).

Ummm, it's a lie that Abbott has been reluctant to debate Rudd. Abbott had said on numerous occasions that he'd be happy to participate in an election debate any time - once an election was called. It's a bit hard to have an election debate without first calling an election!

Rudd didnt want an election debate, he wanted a debate about the economy.

Abbott refused the debate on the grounds that if Rudd wanted to debate he should recall parliament. The stupidity of that statement is I have yet to see a debate in the house of reps. All I see is cheap shots from each side in the worst display of behaviour in a manner that cannot be effectively moderated because out of 150 members only about 10 respect the place and the rest chant and nod like idiots.

Abbott could have easily accepted and instead tried to use it as a bargaining chip in getting Rudd to announce the election date on his terms and not Rudds.

there was no reason to debate Rudd. As we have seen in the past, Rudd is a slippery character and all he wasnted was for Abbott to revela his policies as indeed he would have to in such a debate. But just like julias attempt in January by announcing the election date, it failed. Abbott is too clever for such amateur hour stunts.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #18 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Verge wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 10:08am:

I remember Abbotts performances in the people's forums in 2010. He was very good, very convincing but most importantly he then went on to tell people what his plans were, and he explained his position on matters.

Then the idiot walks out of the room and winds back up in attack dog three word slogan mode and his message was completley lost.

Based on the peoples forums I watched I wouldnt underestimate Abbott. As long as he focuses on what he is going to do and not what Labor has done and projects positivity like he did in those forums, he could very well take them out.

You underestimate your opponent at your own peril.

I work with someone who used to work with Abbott before politics and he has nothing but praised for him as a very impressive, very talented and very passionate person. He DOES suffer from foot-in-mouth disease and always has but as my friend commented 'most people consider that to be honesty!'

The general consensus from anyone who worked with him is the same - he's a good bloke

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday. Reply #19 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:46pm An unnamed source within the LNP, who wishes to remain anonymous, has revealed that Abbott is having his AV link implanted on Saturday evening.
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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #20 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:56pm

Lobo wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

An unnamed source within the LNP, who wishes to remain anonymous, has revealed that Abbott is having his AV link implanted on Saturday evening.

Wink

a long, long list of NAMED sources in the ALP have revealed that Rudd is a micromanaging, indecisive, psychopathic, narcissistic egotist and that every single member of caucus loathe him with a depth that is palpable.

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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #21 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:39pm

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More election debates, the better: Wong

August 09, 2013
The Australian

LABOR wants as many federal election debates as possible, its campaign spokeswoman Penny Wong says.

Senator Wong says the conditions of Sunday's debate are still being negotiated, but she says Labor wants more debates than the Liberals have offered.

"We are in the cart for as many debates as possible. Kevin Rudd's made that clear," Senator Wong told ABC radio in Melbourne.

"He offered to debate Tony Abbott, I think every week, in a number of debates between now and the election.

"Mr Abbott's been, I think, somewhat reluctant." Sad

The Liberals want Sunday leaders' debate plus two people's forums - one in western Sydney and one in Brisbane.

Sunday's debate will be held at the National Press Club at 6.30pm (AEST).

Tony just CAN'T win here
REGARDLESS of policy, ideology, vision, credentials, etc. ...

He's CRAP at debating

Rudd will DEMOLISH him - at every TURN - on every OCCASION

But he can't RUN AWAY

That'd look WORSE

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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday. Reply #22 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:46pm Quote: LABOR wants as many federal election debates as possible, its campaign spokeswoman Penny Wong says. well so far I've only heard from WONG once in this election... what's she been doing with her tongue with rest of the time???
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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #23 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:58pm

True Blue... wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:46pm:

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LABOR wants as many federal election debates as possible, its campaign spokeswoman Penny Wong says.

well so far I've only heard from WONG once in this election...

what's she been doing with her tongue with rest of the time???

I am not sure whether this is relevant, but I hear that she's quite a fan of cats!

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BILL SHORTEN WILL NEVER BE PM!!!!

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Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday.
Reply #24 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 10:00pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Verge wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 10:08am:

I remember Abbotts performances in the people's forums in 2010. He was very good, very convincing but most importantly he then went on to tell people what his plans were, and he explained his position on matters.

Then the idiot walks out of the room and winds back up in attack dog three word slogan mode and his message was completley lost.

Based on the peoples forums I watched I wouldnt underestimate Abbott. As long as he focuses on what he is going to do and not what Labor has done and projects positivity like he did in those forums, he could very well take them out.

You underestimate your opponent at your own peril.

I work with someone who used to work with Abbott before politics and he has nothing but praised for him as a very impressive, very talented and very passionate person. He DOES suffer from foot-in-mouth disease and always has but as my friend commented 'most people consider that to be honesty!'

The general consensus from anyone who worked with him is the same - he's a good bloke

Well let's see - he is a volunteer firefighter, surf lifesaver and helps a remote NT Aboriginal community at the end of every year.

Meanwhile, what community work does Rudd do?

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BILL SHORTEN WILL NEVER BE PM!!!!

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: The First Election Debate On Sunday. Reply #25 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 10:29pm My brother-in laws uncles ex-flatmate worked with Krudd and says he was a good bloke too.
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