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RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F.
Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:06am

This is from an ex R.A.A.F. Wing Commander, who for obvious reasons doesn't want his name revealed:

This is a typical Politician who thinks He Owns Everything……………..

I made an enquiry via my ex RAAF connections, apparently KRUDD & the first shiela’s trip to Afghanistan via a RAAF KC30-A A330
Tanker was specifically tasked for just him, wife & media visit to Afghanistan.
The trip went via Perth and was a very quick over & back task.
What a complete waste of taxpayer funds for a photo op with the troops, when we have a massive cutback in defence spending.

This trip will not have come out of No 34 VIP Squadrons funding for Prime Ministerial travel. The KC30-A Tanker belongs & funding
expenditure is allocated by No 33 Squadron at Amberley.

In effect he is stealing funding from defence operations for his own political purposes.
Is there no end to this prick’s selfishness, self aggrandisement, waste and contempt
to the Armed Services and the Australian Tax Payer?

And this while most of my retired military friends are living impoverished lives on their Labor Party deliberately reduced (Defence
Forces Retirement Benefit Fund) superannuation indexation. In my case it is minus $550 a fortnight since I retired and I was a Wing Commander
most of the retired guys were Warrant Officers or lesser ranks and really struggling after serving their country all their working lives.
It’s a bloody disgrace! About $560 million would repay it all back which is about 2 weeks worth of illegal immigrants under Rudd!

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F. Reply #1 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am As PM, Rudd can use RAAF planes if he so desires. This whinging pr1ck needs to STFU. Why DO the Right keep dragging-up trivialities? Could it be because they have nothing else to offer?
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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8317 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F. Reply #2 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:36am Kat wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am: As PM, Rudd can use RAAF planes if he so desires. This whinging pr1ck needs to STFU. Why DO the Right keep dragging-up trivialities? Could it be because they have nothing else to offer? He could have done a Howard and used a private jet
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Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:38am

red baron wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:06am:

This is from an ex R.A.A.F. Wing Commander, who for obvious reasons doesn't want his name revealed:

This is a typical Politician who thinks He Owns Everything……………..

I made an enquiry via my ex RAAF connections, ...

OH, MY MY !

ANOTHER "little bird" ?

SERIOUSLY

, your

delusions

and BULLSH!T
are getting a tad TIRESOME

Try and stick to FACTUAL, VERIFIABLE SOURCES

You might EVENTUALLY
be taken with more than a "grain of salt"

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Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:59am

Kat wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

As PM, Rudd can use RAAF planes if he so desires.

This whinging pr1ck needs to STFU.

Why DO the Right keep dragging-up trivialities?

Could it be because they have nothing else to offer?

I think you should have read the whole biit, before unloading your bile.

The Wing Comander is upset that the PM can just re-task non-VIP aircraft at his whim, wasting sh1t loads in ADF money, when those who have served their country are getting screwed on the pension, which are considerabley less than civilian pensions.

But you just spit on these welfare recipients, they served theircountry and now are getting buggered over for their service.

It's not about some stupid flight, it's about the inequitability suffered by those who serve these pack of idiot pollies.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59448 Here Gender:	Re: RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F. Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ???? Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way??
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F. Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:32am Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am: Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ???? Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way?? Ummm, no Whay would he fly an operationa RAAF aircraft when he had access to perfectly good VIP aircraft to go on hols?
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Reply #7 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:36am

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:59am:

Kat wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

As PM, Rudd can use RAAF planes if he so desires.

This whinging pr1ck needs to STFU.

Why DO the Right keep dragging-up trivialities?

Could it be because they have nothing else to offer?

I think you should have read the whole biit, before unloading your bile.

The Wing Comander is upset that the PM can just re-task non-VIP aircraft at his whim, wasting sh1t loads in ADF money, when those who have served their country are getting screwed on the pension, which are considerabley less than civilian pensions.

But you just spit on these welfare recipients, they served theircountry and now are getting buggered over for their service.

It's not about some stupid flight, it's about the inequitability suffered by those who serve these pack of idiot pollies.

WHAT ABOUT THE MASSIVE RAAF PLANE FULL OF MEDIA THAT FOLLOWED HIM TO QLD... TO HYPE BEATIE....LOL...

THEY EVEN HATE EACH OTHER...

DONT TAKE ANY NOTICE OF BUZZ S BILE..

HE THOUGHT KEV THE CONS TRIP TO COPENHAGEN

[WHEN HE WAS IN SAVE THE PLANET MODE]

WITH A PLANE FULL OF FREELOADERS WAS DOING US ALL A FAVOR AS THE PLANE WAS HALF EMPTY ANYWAY.. Roll Eyes

GO FIGURE1

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Reply #8 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:39am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ????

Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way??

last I saw the Howards always had their holidays in Australia....which holiday are you referring too??..

btw n o one minds the PM we accept that

but if he commissions the airforce at whim...we know about his EGO dont we.. and then has one lined up just for his media...another EGO thing...then we have a right to ask WHY>> B IG HEAD WHY.

everyones been told we are in for tough times..

can we guess that doesnt apply to kev the bloody con?

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Reply #9 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:41am

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ????

Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way??

Ummm, no

Whay would he fly an operationa RAAF aircraft when he had access to perfectly good VIP aircraft to go on hols?

bigole.. when Tony gets in wait for this lot to pounce they have very short.memories.

everything he does will be shredded in spades.

its only OK if its labor.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: RUDD's misuse of the RA.A.F. Reply #11 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:47am freediver wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:46am: Howard used to borrow one of the F111's to drop his mate borg off at the shops. oh dear another skippy
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Reply #12 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:48am

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ????

Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way??

Ummm, no

Whay would he fly an operationa RAAF aircraft when he had access to perfectly good VIP aircraft to go on hols?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/howzat-six-flights-to-get-howards-to-the-g/2...

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FOR any cricket fan, the Boxing Day Test in an Ashes series is a highlight of the sporting calendar.

But when the cricket-buff-in-chief, John Howard, took the family to the MCG last year it cost the air force $13,254 to provide a VIP jet to fly the Howards and their sons, Richard and Tim, to Melbourne for the second day's play.

Mr Howard's sons paid commercial rates but taxpayers picked up the rest of the tab.

Documents tabled in Parliament show the RAAF made six flights to get the first family from Sydney to Melbourne and back again on December 27. The Challenger jet flew without passengers from Canberra to Sydney, picked up the Howards and took them to Melbourne.

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Reply #13 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:49am

cods wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:36am:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:59am:

Kat wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

As PM, Rudd can use RAAF planes if he so desires.

This whinging pr1ck needs to STFU.

Why DO the Right keep dragging-up trivialities?

Could it be because they have nothing else to offer?

I think you should have read the whole biit, before unloading your bile.

The Wing Comander is upset that the PM can just re-task non-VIP aircraft at his whim, wasting sh1t loads in ADF money, when those who have served their country are getting screwed on the pension, which are considerabley less than civilian pensions.

But you just spit on these welfare recipients, they served theircountry and now are getting buggered over for their service.

It's not about some stupid flight, it's about the inequitability suffered by those who serve these pack of idiot pollies.

WHAT ABOUT THE MASSIVE RAAF PLANE FULL OF MEDIA THAT FOLLOWED HIM TO QLD... TO HYPE BEATIE....LOL...

THEY EVEN HATE EACH OTHER...

DONT TAKE ANY NOTICE OF BUZZ S BILE..

HE THOUGHT KEV THE CONS TRIP TO COPENHAGEN

[WHEN HE WAS IN SAVE THE PLANET MODE]

WITH A PLANE FULL OF FREELOADERS WAS DOING US ALL A FAVOR AS THE PLANE WAS HALF EMPTY ANYWAY.. Roll Eyes

GO FIGURE1

I also found this absolutely ludicrous. Why utilise a C-17 Globemaster (the largest aircraft in the RAAF) when the PM's office could've organised a charter aircraft for a fraction of the cost? It can carry more than 100 troops, including all of their equipment and to use it for press seems an absurd waste of funds.

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Reply #14 - Aug 9^th, 2013 at 9:10am

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:48am:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Do you know how many times Howard used the same method ????

Remember the controversy of Howard taking his family on Holidays this way??

Ummm, no

Whay would he fly an operationa RAAF aircraft when he had access to perfectly good VIP aircraft to go on hols?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/howzat-six-flights-to-get-howards-to-the-g/2...

Quote:

FOR any cricket fan, the Boxing Day Test in an Ashes series is a highlight of the sporting calendar.

But when the cricket-buff-in-chief, John Howard, took the family to the MCG last year it cost the air force $13,254 to provide a VIP jet to fly the Howards and their sons, Richard and Tim, to Melbourne for the second day's play.

Mr Howard's sons paid commercial rates but taxpayers picked up the rest of the tab.

Documents tabled in Parliament show the RAAF made six flights to get the first family from Sydney to Melbourne and back again on December 27. The Challenger jet flew without passengers from Canberra to Sydney, picked up the Howards and took them to Melbourne.

So, like I said, he used a VIP jet to do whatever and NOT an operational RAAF aircraft, so it was NOTHING like what is mentioned in the OP.

Nice work.

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