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Reply #45 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 6:21pm
 
Sure.
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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
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Reply #46 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 7:59pm
 
good. Perhaps you can explain it to Soren then.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #47 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 9:09pm
 
I don't see any need for clarification. You have mad made it clear what you are trying to say.
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Reply #48 - Aug 15th, 2013 at 7:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2013 at 9:09pm:
I don't see any need for clarification. You have mad made it clear what you are trying to say.



What gandalf is trying to communicate, here on OzPol;

Despite any other [expressed] opinion, ISLAM is a respected world religion,
and mainstream moslems are a virtuous, tolerant people,
and persons like FD, Soren and Yadda, Baron, and any other critics of ISLAM/moslems, are hateful ISLAM-O-PHOBES.

???



Moslems are correct [and virtuous].
Non-moslems are spiritually corrupt [and always in error].

A persistent mantra among moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #49 - Aug 15th, 2013 at 7:32pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 15th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

Moslems
are correct [and virtuous].
Non-moslems are spiritually corrupt [and always in error].

A persistent mantra among moslems.





The problem for moslems is that when the mantra of moslems ['Moslems are virtuous, and non-moslems are corrupt deceivers.'], is set beside any semblance of truth, the credibility of what moslems assert, vanishes in a puff of smoke.



Moslems are deceivers.

And moslems are principally deceivers, of themselves.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #50 - Aug 15th, 2013 at 7:55pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 15th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

Moslems
are correct [and virtuous].
Non-moslems are spiritually corrupt [and always in error].




Yup, the moslems are virtuous people, and moslems want to help us infidels, to find Allah's true religion.

Yes folks, our moslem friends can assist us infidels!




Muslim Cleric:
"We should feel pity for them.....
These people are sick. They are sinners.
We should feel pity for them, we should care for them......"

....the YT continues, and we learn how moslems can assist infidels.

Muslim Cleric: How to Lie about Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKs7oi_-NUo


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #51 - Aug 16th, 2013 at 11:46am
 
If You Like Sarah Palin, You’ll Absolutely Love Cory Bernardi


[an]...Islamophobic, climate-change denying South Australian senator, he’s...importing the Tea Party’s ‘astroturf’ techniques and now training others in the faux-grassroots campaigns first cultivated by the American far right.


Menzies House...a website that was set up only a few years ago by Bernardi...ran an incendiary piece (right next to its links to Support Andrew Bolt, Close the Tent Embassy and Stop Gillard's Carbon Tax websites), complaining Bernardi had been "hung out to dry by his own party".

"Why? Because he had the guts to tell the truth, and his PC political mates were too chicken and too spineless to back him up," it thundered.

This surely sets some kind of precedent. Has Tony Abbott ever been condemned before for being politically correct?...

...Bernardi is perhaps the Australian politician best connected to manifold manifestations of the far right of politics, not only in this country but internationally...

...Bernardi's most important connections are with the Tea Party movement in the US.

He has assiduously fostered links with the same right-wing think tanks, funders, vested interests and propagandists who underpin that movement in America. He has absorbed their techniques...

Let's go to a few examples, easily found by looking at Bernardi's entries in the register of senators' interests, filed with the Parliament.

Like this item..:

"Accommodation provided by the Heartland Institute 30/9/10 and 1/10/10." This Chicago-based conservative/libertarian outfit promotes itself as "the world's most prominent think tank" promoting climate-change scepticism.

The institute spends millions every year funding fringe scientists and others, including some in this country, to produce work denying human involvement in global warming.

Bernardi has twice been a speaker at its conferences.

In association with an equivalent think tank in Australia, the Institute of Public Affairs, the Heartland Institute has involved itself in the setting up and funding front "environment" groups devoted to denying climate change and opposing alternative energy. Bernardi has spoken for them too.

A little further into Bernardi's declarations for the register, in the section relating to organisations to which he makes donations or in which he is an office holder, he records the Catholic Church, the Liberal Party and then a few more obscure organisations, including the Conservative Leadership Foundation (CLF).

The Senator is both chairman and founder of the CLF, which claims to be a "non-partisan education and training organisation".

One way it educates and trains is by sponsoring young conservatives to go to the US to be instructed in techniques for running effective political campaigns...

...Cory Bernardi has a big problem with Islam.

Back in February last year he earned rebuke from Abbott for his denunciation of Islam as a "totalitarian political and religious ideology".

Bernardi's Christian fundamentalist view of the world makes no distinction between the minority of violent, radical Islamists and the Islamic majority; as he said in one radio interview at the time, "Islam itself is the problem".

Thus the Senator offered help in arranging a visit to Australia by the extremist anti-Muslim Dutch politician Geert Wilders; the man who has compared the Koran to Adolf Hitler's biography Mein Kampf, and who is on the Movement Alert List...

...Thus he condemned the government for flying survivors of the Christmas Island refugee boat disaster to Sydney to attend the funerals of those who died.

Bernardi's Islamophobia extends beyond the ugly to the ridiculous: he rails on his personal website that "many Australians now unknowingly consume Halal slaughtered livestock."

It's just not kosher, according to Cory.

But we shouldn't scoff; this is serious. Bernardi is changing the Australian political landscape with his imported American-right methods.

As Sally Neighbour wrote in her piece on him in January...:

"Inspired by the tactics of the Tea Party, Bernardi established the Conservative Leadership Foundation in 2009, which in turn set up the Conservative Action Network (CANdo) that Bernardi likens to 'a Facebook for conservatives'. CANdo rallied dozens of like-minded groups and thousands of individuals to join an orchestrated 'grassroots' campaign — also known as 'astroturfing' — against the ETS [emissions-trading scheme].

Their efforts persuaded Liberal MPs to revolt against Turnbull, killing the ETS and propelling Abbott into leadership."

You will no doubt be surprised to learn CANdo lists as its "National Council of Patrons" Hugh Morgan and Alan Jones.

You will no doubt be surprised to learn CANdo lists as its "National Council of Patrons" Hugh Morgan and Alan Jones. CANdo promotes fear and suspicion: of government, of unions, of the nanny state...of refugees, of alleged plans to steal our property, our freedom of speech.

Its multiple websites do this through a mix of misrepresentation and wild hyperbole. To cite an example of the former, wind farms represent a government attempt to effectively steal our property rights. To cite an example of the latter, Gina Rinehart is a "great Australian patriot"...

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/if-you-like-sarah-palin-youll-absolutely-love-cory-bernardi/390/#
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Reply #52 - Aug 16th, 2013 at 11:50am
 
The meat's halal! Carbon dioxide is good for the environment!
Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #53 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:04am
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 11:46am:
Bernardi's Christian fundamentalist view of the world makes no distinction between the minority of violent, radical Islamists and the Islamic majority; as he said in one radio interview at the time, "Islam itself is the problem".



You don't have to be Christian of any degree to recognise the role of Islam in the very large number of conflicts world-wide.
But the propagandists among us keep insisting:

"If you see something, say nothing"

http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/If-you-see-something--say-nothing-7654

“It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated.” So taught Banna, the aforementioned Muslim Brotherhood founder. The mission of Islam, he elaborated, is “to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.” To achieve global hegemony, the Egyptian academic conceived a sophisticated plan for ground-up revolution, starting with indoctrination of the Muslim individual and family, building outward. The strategy was to pressure and infiltrate every influential institution of society, particularly academe, media, and government. A key goal, particularly in the early, strength-gaining stages, was for Islamists to ingratiate themselves with the society targeted for conquest. As internal Brotherhood memoranda seized by the FBI from the home of a top organization operative proclaimed, the American-based Islamists see their mission here primarily as “sabotage”—a “grand jihad” aimed at “the elimination and destruction of Western civilization from within.” But the specter of certain violence always hovers.

Banna called it the “art of death.” The laws of Islam could not ultimately be implemented without committing to the necessity of martyrdom and death. Not only does lethality directly clear the field of opposition; it terrorizes the infidel opponent. The extortionate effect, the fear of the next savage round, renders him more submissive to the jihad’s softer iterations—not least, the mere “political movement that favors reordering government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam,” which our media and government are so anxious to bifurcate from Islamist violence.

We cannot protect ourselves by airbrushing the terrorism out of Islamist ideology. Propagation of the latter leads inexorably to instances of the former. We can continue deluding ourselves into believing this is not the case, but then we’d better prepare for more Bostons.
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Reply #54 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:10pm
 
It is odd how idiots like Soren seem to think Muslims are behind all the conflicts in the world.

Yet it is

*Christians who started WWI and WWII
*Christians who committed genocide in Rwanda
*Christians who committed genocide in Bosnia
*Christians fighting each other in Central Africa
*Christians who have invaded Afghanistan.
*Christians who invaded Iraq and left the place in chaos after killing a million people
*Christians occupying Chechnya
*Christians occupying Dagestan
*Jews who have invaded palestine, and committed genocide there.
*Christians who have invaded Somalia
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslims and Hindus in Sri Lanka
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslim in Burma
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslims in Thailand
*Atheists who invaded Afghanistan in the 1980's
*Atheists who killed tens of millions under Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao.


But of course, a retard would understand all of that.
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Reply #55 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:10pm:
It is odd how idiots like Soren seem to think Muslims are behind all the conflicts in the world.

Yet it is

*Christians who started WWI and WWII
*Christians who committed genocide in Rwanda
*Christians who committed genocide in Bosnia
*Christians fighting each other in Central Africa
*Christians who have invaded Afghanistan.
*Christians who invaded Iraq and left the place in chaos after killing a million people
*Christians occupying Chechnya
*Christians occupying Dagestan
*Jews who have invaded palestine, and committed genocide there.
*Christians who have invaded Somalia
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslims and Hindus in Sri Lanka
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslim in Burma
*Buddhists who are persecuting Muslims in Thailand
*Atheists who invaded Afghanistan in the 1980's
*Atheists who killed tens of millions under Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao.


But of course, a retard would understand all of that.


If you really think all of these tragedies are due to religion then why don't you bugger off out of Australia? I can never understand how Muslims think they can play this both ways.

1. You want to live in Australia, be a Muslim, and claim you have the freedom to do that.

but

2. When a country like Australia goes to war you label it a "Christian nation" and blame all Christians for any deaths.

If Australia represents Christians in what it does because this is a Christian nation, why do you live here? Why do you live in this evil Christian nation?

If you claim it is not your fault that Australia send people overseas to fight and kill in a war that you don't approve of, then why is it the Christian next doors fault? Does his vote count for more than yours? If not, then the blood of those dead is on the hands of Australian Muslims every bit as much as what you claim it to be on Christian's hands.
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Reply #56 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 1:31pm
 
Quantum wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
why do you live here?


Because I was born here. Probably you think I should have chosen to be born somewhere else eh? Why didn't i choose to be born in a Muslim country - very devious of me don't you think?  Cheesy

Quantum wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
If you claim it is not your fault that Australia send people overseas to fight and kill in a war that you don't approve of, then why is it the Christian next doors fault?


First of all, you are assuming that my neighbour is Christian. Second of all, you are assuming that I blame my neighbour for starting a war.

But keep going, facts are not important for you are they? Grin


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Reply #57 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 2:00pm
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 1:31pm:
Quantum wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
why do you live here?


Because I was born here. Probably you think I should have chosen to be born somewhere else eh? Why didn't i choose to be born in a Muslim country - very devious of me don't you think?  Cheesy

Quantum wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
If you claim it is not your fault that Australia send people overseas to fight and kill in a war that you don't approve of, then why is it the Christian next doors fault?


First of all, you are assuming that my neighbour is Christian. Second of all, you are assuming that I blame my neighbour for starting a war.

But keep going, facts are not important for you are they? Grin




Comprehension is not yours. For someone born here you do seem to miss a lot of English expressions that you should understand.

As a typical gutless Muslim you have yet again deflected from the issue at hand. What makes Australia a Christian nation when it goes to war, but a secular nation when you want to live here as a Muslim? Again I repeat; You want to live in Australia, be a Muslim, and claim you have the freedom to do that, but when Australia goes to war, you want to label it a "Christian nation" and blame all Christians for any deaths. It is a typical Bullshlt "I'm a Muslim and I want everything my own way and when I don't get it I will scream like a pig" mentality. When Australia goes to war you are as much a part of that as any Christian living here.
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Reply #58 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 3:30pm
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 1:31pm:
Quantum wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
why do you live here?


Because I was born here. Probably you think I should have chosen to be born somewhere else eh? Why didn't i choose to be born in a Muslim country - very devious of me don't you think?  Cheesy






Why not migrate?

You think it's better to live among muslims. There are 54 Muslim-majority countries. Don't tell us that none of them is preferable to a Muslim so unhappy with the kuffar as you are.

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Reply #59 - Aug 17th, 2013 at 4:00pm
 
TC has every right to criticise and abuse his own country. Its that pesky freedom of expression thing you clowns are constantly lecturing us muslims about. And I have no idea where you get this idea he is unhappy living amongst the "kufar" here. Seems to me he revels in the freedom of expression and religion he has here, as do I.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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