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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #30 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 4:54pm I like reading the histrionics and hyperbole about crap people have little actual control over and in all likelihood hardly effects them at all.
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Reply #31 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

Neferti wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

Most people will be too busy counting how many times Kevni flicks his hair, licks his lips and mentions Abbott to care. I note that Bolt has set up some app so people can use that "worm" to "judge" for themselves.

I won't be watching it. The less I see and hear from Krudd, the better.

Aww too scared you might change your mind if you hear opposing views?

SOB

Thinks if he doesn't hear them, they don't exist.

Nope. I will be voting Liberal, regardless of how Tony Abbott goes at a Debate.

Will watching the Debate make YOU change YOUR mind about voting ALP? Cheesy

Well, I hadn't been planning to vote for them either, but I don't know.

It may, or not. I'll at least hear what they have to say first.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #32 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:12pm Ruddites will say Rudd won. Abbott supporters will say their bloke was the victor. And Merlin may return from whatever planet he is on.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #33 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:15pm Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:12pm: Ruddites will say Rudd won. Abbott supporters will say their bloke was the victor. And Merlin may return from whatever planet he is on. and if debating skill and media presentation ability had even diddly squat to do with leadership critieria it might be important.
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Reply #34 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:15pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Ruddites will say Rudd won. Abbott supporters will say their bloke was the victor.

And Merlin may return from whatever planet he is on.

and if debating skill and media presentation ability had even diddly squat to do with leadership critieria it might be important.

I would have thought being able to argue your case effectively would be essential for any leader.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #35 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:39pm Interesting that the channel nine worm had Gillard the winner of that debate longy. So did the Sydney morning herald, abc and another major newspaper. The only source I found that had Abbott win that debate wasthe liberal party website. I dont think Abbott had the win of that debate in 2010 like you claim longy
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #36 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:42pm Swinging voters determine elections. I think connecting with the voters is important longy because if you don't, and they vote for the other guy then there is little point being a great leader in opposition for another three years
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #37 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:53pm Other than the "Uncle Sam I want you" look - Abbott looks good Rudd's blue pudgy pasty white skin is sickening I must admit I was worried for Abbott - but so far so good
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #38 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:03pm The 'worm' is of interest. Even before either one has said jack poo it goes from 'like' to 'dislike,' 'dislike' if Rudd is about to speak, and 'like,' if Abbott is about to speak. Watch for yourself.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #39 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:04pm Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:53pm: Other than the "Uncle Sam I want you" look - Abbott looks good Rudd's blue pudgy pasty white skin is sickening I must admit I was worried for Abbott - but so far so good You might need a new TV. Looks fine, on mine.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Who will win/won debate Reply #40 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:07pm Aussie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:03pm: The 'worm' is of interest. Even before either one has said jack poo it goes from 'like' to 'dislike,' 'dislike' if Rudd is about to speak, and 'like,' if Abbott is about to speak. Watch for yourself. You noticed, too? I was just going to comment on it when I saw your post.
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Reply #41 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:07pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:15pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Ruddites will say Rudd won. Abbott supporters will say their bloke was the victor.

And Merlin may return from whatever planet he is on.

and if debating skill and media presentation ability had even diddly squat to do with leadership critieria it might be important.

I would have thought being able to argue your case effectively would be essential for any leader.

a formal debate is not the same thing at all. leaders can argue a case without charisma, public speaking skills and witty repartee. public debates like tis are showmanship rather than substance. The right answer, presented poorly loses while the silver-tongued orator wins based on skill of presentation. Have you never been in a debate where it was your job to demolish an argument you 100% support? Have you never seen a debate where the winner was someone defending a lie?

public debates are interesting but they rarely elicit much truly valuable leadership information.

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Reply #42 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:12pm

Kat wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:

The 'worm' is of interest. Even before either one has said jack poo it goes from 'like' to 'dislike,' 'dislike' if Rudd is about to speak, and 'like,' if Abbott is about to speak. Watch for yourself.

Cheesy

You noticed, too?

I was just going to comment on it when I saw your post.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!! As soon as Abbott stops, the worm plummets, even before Rudd has spoken a word.

Poor old manipulated worm. Anyone else like me get asked by the local LNP and the PUP to play with the worm?

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Reply #43 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:19pm

Kat wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 6:53pm:

Other than the "Uncle Sam I want you" look - Abbott looks good

Rudd's blue pudgy pasty white skin is sickening

I must admit I was worried for Abbott - but so far so good

You might need a new TV.

Looks fine, on mine.

Damn 75" Samsung LED 3D HD TV

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Reply #44 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:22pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:

The 'worm' is of interest. Even before either one has said jack poo it goes from 'like' to 'dislike,' 'dislike' if Rudd is about to speak, and 'like,' if Abbott is about to speak. Watch for yourself.

Cheesy

You noticed, too?

I was just going to comment on it when I saw your post.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!! As soon as Abbott stops, the worm plummets, even before Rudd has spoken a word.

Poor old manipulated worm. Anyone else like me get asked by the local LNP and the PUP to play with the worm?

I reckon half the trouble with the Right is that they spend altogether too much time playing with their 'worms'...

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Question: Who will win/won tonight's debate
Tony Abbott was the clear winner 11 (57.9%) Kevin castrati rudd thanks to media bias 7 (36.8%) The cut on castratis face 1 (5.3%) Total votes: 19 « Created by: Merlin on: Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:07am »