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Politicians & Others, are Truth Inhibited!
Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:51am

300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day

Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached.

Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up.

The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all.

As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims.

Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate.

Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated.

Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings.

According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean.

UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.”

TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis.

There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications.

Link -
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/
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I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth!
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My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs!
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The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters!

It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election!

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Reply #1 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:30pm

Oh & for those, on both the Left & Right of Politics, who would complain of my bias, can I refer you to take the following ABC VoteCompass test & see where your results lead.
http://www.abc.net.au/votecompass/

Whilst this sort of ting can be subjective, my answers resulted in me being -
1) Nearly in the centre of the middle target & very slightly on the Social Liberalism side and right in the middle between the Economic Left & Right.
2) My supposed agreement with the parties, according to Vote Compass, was -
Labor - 54%
Liberal -51%
Greens - 44%

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Politicians & Others, are Truth Inhibited! Reply #2 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent But not so silent when the ALP positivity Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut Try again PN
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Politicians & Others, are Truth Inhibited! Reply #3 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm so in the perfect world you envisage.. who do you suggest we emulate?.. assuming of course there is such a govt out there without all those dastardly characteristics you list.. self interest etc..???? I am sure you have somewhere in mind...
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Reply #4 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:40pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat

But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent

But not so silent when the ALP positivity

Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut

Try again PN

they always pretend to be neutral when the polls are down...lol

I like the ones that pretend to be green.. but back gillard/rudd no matter how bad they are...in fact other than greenswhine those that claim to be green never ever talk about them...not that I see anyway...

just claim thats who the vote for when the polls tell them labor is on the nose..LOL>..

nothing like living in hope I guess...they dont ask much from their own side do they?????..

I love kevthecon asking us to TRUST him.. Grin

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Reply #5 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 1:58pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat

But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent

But not so silent when the ALP positivity

Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut

Try again PN

As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend!

Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy!

In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY!

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Reply #6 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:35pm

cods wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

so in the perfect world you envisage.. who do you suggest we emulate?.. assuming of course there is such a govt out there without all those dastardly characteristics you list.. self interest etc..???? I am sure you have somewhere in mind... Cheesy

Do you really think there is a Politician/Political Party that doesn't fit those characteristics?

The world has never been "perfect" Cods, NEVER!
And, why would you need to emulate anyone or any Political party? Why can't you (WE) make up our own minds, based on FACTS & our own interpretation of those facts?

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Reply #7 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:39pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat

But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent

But not so silent when the ALP positivity

Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut

Try again PN

As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend!

Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy!

In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY!

Fairly easy to "hit the middle" of the voting compass so that's no proof of your self proclaim neutrality

This is not about "agreeing" with what I said

It's always about presenting your argument succinctly despite your political leaning

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Politicians & Others, are Truth Inhibited! Reply #8 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:49pm Tony Abbott has admitted on camera that unless he is reading from a script that he is lying. Now theres real PM material
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Reply #9 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:50pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat

But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent

But not so silent when the ALP positivity

Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut

Try again PN

As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend!

Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy!

In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY!

Fairly easy to "hit the middle" of the voting compass so that's no proof of your self proclaim neutrality

This is not about "agreeing" with what I said

It's always about presenting your argument succinctly despite your political leaning

Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly!

However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned!

As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide!

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Politicians & Others, are Truth Inhibited! Reply #10 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:52pm adelcrow wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:49pm: Tony Abbott has admitted on camera that unless he is reading from a script that he is lying. Now theres real PM material No doubt, BUT do you really think that Rudd has any less assistance?
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Reply #11 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:58pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:

Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly!

However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned!

As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide!

I reflect the opposition I come up against

You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept

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Reply #12 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:19pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:51am:

300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day

Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached.

Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up.

The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all.

As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims.

Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate.

Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated.

Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings.

According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean.

UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.”

TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis.

There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications.

Link -
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/
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We are in the Energy Business & Fossil Fuels will last FOREVER!
Yeah Right?

We Politicians & the Energy Industry have Public Safety, Climate Change & LOWER COSTS, as our Prime concerns!
Yeah Right?

Government's don't spy on their own Public!
Yeah Right?

Government's have the Public's best, long term interests are heart!
Yeah Right?

I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth!
Yeah Right?

My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs!
Yeah Right?

The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters!

It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election!

i

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Reply #13 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:

Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly!

However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned!

As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide!

I reflect the opposition I come up against

You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept

You are a straight reflection of the Liberal party!

The simple Economic concepts you refer to, are simply a reflection of the past, they no longer have current &or future credibilty, as will be clearly on display Locally & Globally, over the years ahead!

As for debating, you do not debate facts, such as what I repeatedly post, because you know it isn't a discussion you have any chance of winning, such as some of the issues raised in the following & related posts!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

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Reply #14 - Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:31pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:19pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:51am:

300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day

Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached.

Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up.

The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all.

As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims.

Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate.

Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated.

Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings.

According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean.

UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.”

TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis.

There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications.

Link -
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/
===============================

We are in the Energy Business & Fossil Fuels will last FOREVER!
Yeah Right?

We Politicians & the Energy Industry have Public Safety, Climate Change & LOWER COSTS, as our Prime concerns!
Yeah Right?

Government's don't spy on their own Public!
Yeah Right?

Government's have the Public's best, long term interests are heart!
Yeah Right?

I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth!
Yeah Right?

My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs!
Yeah Right?

The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters!

It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election!

i

You're just worried about Godzilla aren't ya Grin

http://www.freewebs.com/godzilla14freak/godzilla.jpg

IB,
Saw the movie, I am more concerned about where Politics & Politicians are sending us!

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