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Reply #30 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:18pm
 
Longloser writing about Nail:
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works in a servo, drives a 20yo commodore and lives in a rented house with 5 others.



More false allegations against Nail.
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Reply #31 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 1:06pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
BTW, most middle class pay a sh1t load in tax, a lot more than any 'wealthfare' they may recieve.

True, we pay about 25k in GST only, and about 12-15k in income tax, yet, the the childcare support is only about 2000-3000 per year, and whenever we are struggling to pay on time and request to arrange for installment repayments, they'd at times grumble that they are not a financial institution. 
And we don't spend in excess either, all goes for educating our kids, home repayments, insurances, medical expenses, electricity, and petrol. We've actually minimised our grocery spending to 100-120 per week, for the 4 of us, as a sacrifice for education.
I know there a lot of scammers, and I actually knew some, they'd live in a housing commission, in a prime location (because they know someone internally) and yet they own 2 private properties, get disability pension for their elderly parents, unemployment benefit for their kids, etc. It's just feels so unfair, when you try to do the right thing, and you know you are, and instead of feeling good about yourself, you are being accused of "overspending". Many people believe that being in your own business meaning making millions, but in fact our workers are better off than us. And if we closed our business today, there would be at least 3 extra unemployed people, 2 extra kids added to public schooling, and possibly another family in the cue for a public housing.
This is truly tiring, and it really demotivates you as a business owner.
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If GST rises by 5%, then your income must also rise by 5%. Which means you will either become unemployed or underpaid. Choose wisely
 
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Reply #32 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:14pm
 
The reason they pay more than they receive is because it costs a lot of money to take it all off you then give it back. There are a lot of people looking over each others' shoulder making sure it is done fairly and none of it is wasted.
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Reply #33 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:20pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:06pm:


I can read it alright but can you ?

[quote]The latest Tax Office statistics show the average loss per negatively geared investor was $10,950, up from $9130 the year before. The average loss for a high-income negatively geared investor earning more than $180,000 was $23,800.

Higher interest rates and rising property prices during 2010-11 swelled the losses.

The figures identify negative gearing as one of the key drains on personal tax collections with one in every seven Australian taxpayers now a property investor and one in every 10 negatively geared.


I cant see any mention of 5.5b lost revenue. You were wrong, get over it.
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Reply #34 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:54am
 
Another Wealfare topic degenerated into name calling by abusive buggerS.

Here is the solution IGNORANTS, Provide Jobs.

KICK down doors and make jobs availably to the job seekers that need them.

Employers out there ( the Ignorants in our society) don't get a choice, they get a person that needs to work.

Make the job fit the job seeker qualifications.
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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

The bigger the Arshole you are on this forum, the more right you have to stay.
 
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Reply #35 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 7:04am
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:54am:
Another Wealfare topic degenerated into name calling by abusive buggerS.
Here is the solution IGNORANTS, Provide Jobs.

KICK down doors and make jobs availably to the job seekers that need them.

Employers out there ( the Ignorants in our society) don't get a choice, they get a person that needs to work.

Make the job fit the job seeker qualifications.



They all do.

That's why I started 'Health & Welfare'.

Most of the abusers don't post there (or at least, not abusively) as they know I WILL hand out bans for it.

I think a lot of their attitude comes from fear. They fear they may one day be among the unemployed
but at the same time think they're 'better' than that, so they denigrate.

It's a bit like the black jokes about death common among soldiers in a combat situation, a way of
showing bravado and minimising the object of the fear.

You've noticed that they never have any viable solutions, or suggestions to help, only abuse. Or they'll
rack their brains to think of more punishments or hoops for the unemployed to jump through.

The most offensive of these is payment-quarantining and this stupid 'food-stamps' idea they keep pushing.
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Reply #36 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:03am
 
degenerated and ended topic then.
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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

The bigger the Arshole you are on this forum, the more right you have to stay.
 
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Reply #38 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 9:58am
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:54am:
Make the job fit the job seeker qualifications.



Like placing you as head of neuro surgery at a major hospital, not qualified, too bad for everyone else we need to find you a job, any job, competent or not.

Yeah, friggen brilliant plan.

How about you get quaifications suitable for the employment you are seeking, just like the rest of us.


Spend less time whinging and more time adapting.



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Reply #39 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 10:14am
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:03am:
degenerated and ended topic then.



It’s 8am!!! Get off your arse and go look for a job.
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Reply #40 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 10:48am
 
We could always pay people to weave baskets. Then they'd never have to adapt to a new job.
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Reply #41 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 11:28am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 9:58am:
warrigal wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:54am:
Make the job fit the job seeker qualifications.



Like placing you as head of neuro surgery at a major hospital, not qualified, too bad for everyone else we need to find you a job, any job, competent or not.

Yeah, friggen brilliant plan.

How about you get quaifications suitable for the employment you are seeking, just like the rest of us.


Spend less time whinging and more time adapting.





btw what qualifications do you have big hole ?
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #42 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 11:32am
 
ian wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:06pm:


I can read it alright but can you ?

[quote]The latest Tax Office statistics show the average loss per negatively geared investor was $10,950, up from $9130 the year before. The average loss for a high-income negatively geared investor earning more than $180,000 was $23,800.

Higher interest rates and rising property prices during 2010-11 swelled the losses.

The figures identify negative gearing as one of the key drains on personal tax collections with one in every seven Australian taxpayers now a property investor and one in every 10 negatively geared.


I cant see any mention of 5.5b lost revenue. You were wrong, get over it.


I got the 13 billion of write downs right didn't I, but using some flowery accountant speak you want to make out that it is nothing Sad

just stop ignoring the real issue that negative gearing is a tax avoidance racket. What other investment allows you to claim expenses from a day job that is totally unrelated to the investment whilst owner occupiers have to take it up the arse from over inflated house prices and interest payments because dear old ian thinks it's his god given right to hoard more properties that what he needs to live in Sad
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #43 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 11:45am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 11:32am:
just stop ignoring the real issue that negative gearing is a tax avoidance racket. What other investment allows you to claim expenses from a day job that is totally unrelated to the investment



Shares, pretty much any investment where you take out a loan to invest.


But feel free to rant on.  Grin


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Reply #44 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 11:47am
 
warrigal wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:54am:
Another Wealfare topic degenerated into name calling by abusive buggerS.


You are the most abusive person on this forum. Toughen up princess.

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Here is the solution IGNORANTS, Provide Jobs.

KICK down doors and make jobs availably to the job seekers that need them.


You have never explained why someone who has a job should be out there trying to find a job for you, especially when you have admitted to do nothing to help yourself.

There are 168 hours in a week. To remain healthy you really should be spending at least 50 of them sleeping; maybe getting closer to about 55-60. The little things like showering and having dinner would be about another 10 hours. Many full time workers will spend about 70 hours working during a normal week (38 hours of work, plus getting ready for work, travelling to and from, lunch break, settling in once home, etc) plus at least another 5 or more just with out of work hours emails, letters, phone calls etc. Again, that's a normal week. Chuck in overtime and a high work load and a very busy week could easily be another 10-20 hours on top of that. 

Are you doing the maths? How and why should full time workers be spending time trying to find you a job? I haven't even included, house keeping, shopping, family responsibilities above. When exactly do people have the time (during office hours of all things) to find YOU a job?

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Employers out there ( the Ignorants in our society) don't get a choice, they get a person that needs to work.

Make the job fit the job seeker qualifications.


So if someone who owns a company that makes nuts and bolts, they should employ someone who is trained to be a painter? They should then provided painting opportunities for this person while the nuts and bolts production comes to a halt because they can only no longer afford someone to makes the bolts.

Do you honestly think that makes sense? Do you really not understand that it is not for companies to make jobs to suit people looking for jobs. 

I am disappointed by people on this forum who continuously come to your defence. You are an angry lazy person who refuses to work and is blaming everyone else for your problems. You have shown that you waste your welfare payments on things that you don't need, yet you believe that you should be getting even more ($50,000 a year in fact). You have made it clear that you won't seek training but will only work in a job that suits you and nothing less. You have also made it clear that you refuse to look for work but expect those with jobs to find you a job. Yet still people defend your position. You are the very essence of a dole bludger and a reason as to why the unemployment benefits should never be raised, as it only helps to breed useless leeches like yourself.
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