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Reply #15 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:38pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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The people asked the messenger of allah: Can we perform ablution [for prayers] out of the well of Budaah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and not defiled by anything.
www.sunnah.com/abudawud/1/66

This was a case where Jews had contanimated a well.

The prophet said that this well could continue to be used for washing for prayers - after the contaminates had been removed - and it means that water that smells and looks clean can be used for washing prayers - not necessarily for drinking.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

There is no verse in the Quran where Allah tells you to boil drinking water to make it safe to drink...

Uncontaminated water does not need to be boiled. I have drunk unboiled water from natural water supplies many times.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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Allah's apostle commanded the killing of Geckos, and he called them noxious little creatures.
www.sunnah.com/urn/255620

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Reptiles and the risk of Infectious Diseases

Reptiles such as snakes, turtles, tortoises and lizards have become popular as pets...their unusual appearance is very appealing to small children. However they require careful handling as they carry a range of germs that can lead to human illness (especially in small children, pregnant women, the elderly and people with serious disease such as cancer)...

...All reptiles carry a range of germs including bacteria, viruses, parasites and worms. Many of these can be transmitted on to the family of reptile owners. The most significant of these include:

Salmonella: Salmonella are commonly found in all types of reptiles and can spread from reptiles to humans when something contaminated with reptile faeces is placed in the mouth. For example, infants can become infected with Salmonella by drinking bottles of formula contaminated by contact with the reptile/reptile faeces. Salmonella infection causes diarrhoea, headache, fever and stomach cramps and can result in septicaemia (blood poisoning). Dehydration can be severe. In 2008, there were 449 cases of salmonellosis, fifteen cases of which had recent contact with reptiles. Nine of these fifteen cases were under one year of age.

Botulism: Botulism is a serious and life-threatening illness caused by a toxin released by the Clostridium bacterium that causes paralysis and death. Clostridium is found widely in the environment including soil and mud as spores and animals that live close to the ground are commonly contaminated with clostridium. Clostridium commonly contaminates reptiles, especially aquatic reptiles. Adults and older children have a range of bacteria that overgrow the spores responsible but small babies under the age of one year have not yet developed this protection. It has recently been recognised that exposure to turtles or to turtle feed was the likely cause in at cases infant botulism in Ireland. Accordingly, the HPSC advises that reptiles...are not appropriate pets for small children and should not be kept in households in which there are children under the age of five...

Other infections: illness such as campylobacteriosis (a bowel infection), leptospirosis (a liver disease), trichinellosis (a disease of muscles, the nervous system and the heart and lungs) have been associated with keeping reptiles and while most are treatable, some can be very serious. That said the risk for most people keeping reptiles does not pose a significant health risk, as long as proper hygiene is maintained. Most people have a low risk of getting ill with Salmonella infection from contact with reptiles and this risk can be reduced further by following the advice below.

Reptiles should not be kept as pets in a house where there are children under the age of five.

All reptiles should be considered to be contaminated with one (or many) of the above bacteria).

Pregnant women, elderly or frail adults or immunosuppressed people (e.g. people with cancer, HIV/AIDS, people with a CD4 count less than 200) should avoid all contact with reptiles.
After handling your reptile always wash your hands with hot, soapy water...

...Reptiles must be kept out of the kitchen, dining areas, and any other area in which food is prepared...

...Older children who handle reptiles should avoid putting their hands near their mouths until they have washed their hands.

Nor should children put objects that the reptile has touched near their mouths.

Reptiles should not be kept in child-care facilities or crèches; they are not appropriate pets for small children.

Follow expert advice on the feeding and welfare (e.g. environment) of your reptile as stress to the animal can cause it to shed Salmonella and other pathogens.

http://www.hpsc.ie/hpsc/A-Z/Zoonotic/ReptilesandRisksofInfectiousDiseases/

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Reply #17 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

Islam promotes the planting of trees,

1300 years of tree planting;

"Our work here is done. Praise Allah!!!"

Do you really think none of us have been to the home of Islam; The Middle East. Outside of just a handful of cities the place is a desert wasteland. There is no tree planting going on anywhere. Even the cities with them are hardly green. Just a few gardens, mostly around tourist areas and government properties. The only thing growing in the land of Islam is a collection of plastic bottles and rubbish along the side of the roads. When it comes to rees, they haven't exactly had a Napoleon renovating the place.

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Reply #18 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:53pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Some of them are actually pretty good. Not sure about the merits of attempting to cultivate dry, barren land though. Many scientists attribute rising desertification in the middle east and Africa at least partly to this. [quote]

No. The improvement of desert land does not create desert - if that improvement means planting trees and improving the quality of the soil.

I have seen properties in Australia where semi-Arid land has been turned into lovely gardens simply by improving the soil quality and planting shrubs and trees.

What mainly causes desertification is the removal of existing trees and shrubs in semi-arid land.

Islam promotes the planting of trees, not their removal.

History records that the [ISLAMIC] Ottoman Empire taxed land according to the number of trees, thereby causing local desertification [because landowners cut down their trees to avoid taxation].

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ottoman taxed trees, caused desertification

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ottoman, landowners cut down their trees to avoid tax

Read the account of Mark Twain, on his visit to the 'holy land' in 1867

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Mark Twain in the Holy Land

Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”

And he described the Temple Mount thus:

“The mighty Mosque of Omar, and the paved court around it, occupy a fourth part of Jerusalem. They are upon Mount Moriah, where King Solomon’s Temple stood. This Mosque is the holiest place the Mohammedan knows, outside of Mecca. Up to within a year or two past, no christian could gain admission to it or its court for love or money. But the prohibition has been removed, and we entered freely for bucksheesh.”

Chapters 45-56 of Innocents Abroad can be read on Shechem.org.
More quotes from pilgrims to the Holy Land can be found on the COJS website.

http://zionismandisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/mark-twain-in-the-holy-land/

http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Quotes_from_Pilgrims_to_the_Holy_Land

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #19 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:14pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

Read the account of Mark Twain, on his visit to the 'holy land' in 1867

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For centuries before 1867 [and for decades after that], moslems had been the sole 'stewards' of all of the lands, around and in the region of Israel.

Dictionary;
steward = =
1 a person who looks after the passengers on a ship or aircraft.
2 a person responsible for supplies of food to a college, club, etc.
3 an official appointed to supervise arrangements at a large public event.
4 short for shop steward.
5 a person employed to manage another’s property, especially a large house or estate. chiefly historical an officer of the British royal household, especially an administrator of Crown estates.
· v. act as a steward of.
– DERIVATIVES stewardship n.

Why was the holy land a desolate land 'devoid of both vegetation and human population', in 1867 ?

Somehow, it must have been the fault of those Zionists. Tongue

Honest!!!

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #20 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:48pm

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Altering nature is evil

...And he [Satan] said: "I will take an appointed portion of your servants; Verily, I will mislead them, and surely, I will arouse in them false desires; and certainly, I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by God."...
- the Quran, an-Nisaa, v.118-9

Taqiyya again T.C.

What AN-NISA (WOMEN) 118 /119 really says:

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AN-NISA (WOMEN) 004.118
YUSUFALI: Allah did curse him, but he said: "I will take of Thy servants a portion Marked off;

PICKTHAL: Whom Allah cursed, and he said: Surely I will take of Thy bondmen an appointed portion,

SHAKIR: Allah has cursed him; and he said: Most certainly I will take of Thy servants an appointed portion:

AN-NISA (WOMEN) 004.119
YUSUFALI: "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

PICKTHAL: And surely I will lead them astray, and surely I will arouse desires in them, and surely I will command them and they will cut the cattle' ears, and surely I will command them and they will change Allah's creation. Whoso chooseth Satan for a patron instead of Allah is verily a loser and his loss is manifest.

SHAKIR: And most certainly I will lead them astray and excite in them vain desires, and bid them so that they shall slit the ears of the cattle, and most certainly I will bid them so that they shall alter Allah's creation[/b]; and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss.

It is very clear that allah and not satan is doing the cursing and threatening to take a portion of the servants in verse 118.

Verse 119 is a continuation of the curse and threat by allah.

Again very clearly allah says that he will lead them astray to slit the ears of cattle and alter creation (alter creation in this case refers to slitting a cows naturally whole ear) it has nothing to do with the environment.

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So direct your face toward the religion in orthodoxy; the pure natural disposition of God which He created mankind upon. Do not change God's Creation. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
the Quran, ar-Rum, v.30

First off let me say I can't find an ar-Rum, the closest thing I can come up with is AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES) v 30: (I have quoted 29 & 30 because they are in conjunction)

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AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES).029
YUSUFALI: Nay, the wrong-doers (merely) follow their own lusts, being devoid of knowledge. But who will guide those whom Allah leaves astray? To them there will be no helpers.

PICKTHAL: Nay, but those who do wrong follow their own lusts without knowledge. Who is able to guide him whom Allah hath sent astray? For such there are no helpers.

SHAKIR: Nay! those who are unjust follow their low desires without any knowledge; so who can guide him whom Allah makes err? And they shall have no helpers.

AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES).030
YUSUFALI: So set thou thy face steadily and truly to the Faith: (establish) Allah's handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allah: that is the standard Religion: but most among mankind understand not.

PICKTHAL: So set thy purpose (O Muhammad) for religion as a man by nature upright - the nature (framed) of Allah, in which He hath created man. There is no altering (the laws of) Allah's creation. That is the right religion, but most men know not -

SHAKIR: Then set your face upright for religion in the right state-- the nature made by Allah in which He has made men; there is no altering of Allah's creation; that is the right religion, but most people do not know--

Verse 29 tells muslims that wrongdoers follow their own lusts because allah has sent them astray. (once again allah is the deceiver of men)

Verse 30 tell muslims to devote themselves to islam. Because islam is the nature in which allah created man. you cannot alter the way man was created (in islam). islam is the right religion, but most people do not recognize the right religion (islam)

The two verses have theological meaning, not environmental

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Reply #22 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 5:09pm

The world's largest muslim population is world's worst environmental vandal.

Indonesian Forest Facts

The forests of Indonesia, along with their thousands of plant and animal species, are being destroyed at an alarming rate due to massive logging and clearing for palm oil plantations. Indonesia’s tropical forests are of global importance, covering over 98 million hectares (242,163,274 acres). The rapid deterioration of tropical forests is causing incalculable losses in terms of biodiversity and is pushing species such as the orangutan ever closer to extinction. -

Twelve percent of all mammal species, 16% of reptile and amphibian species, and 17% of bird species are found on the 17,000 islands that constitute Indonesia.” -

Most of Indonesia’s forests are found in the Indonesian half of New Guinea, and on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra. The forests of Indonesia represent 10% of the world’s remaining tropical forests. Indonesia’s forests are the second largest in the world after the forests of Brazil. Unfortunately, over the years Indonesia has lost up to 80% of its original forest habitat and continues to lose 6.2 million acres (2,509,051 hectares) a year. Indonesia entered the Guinness Book of World Records in 2008 and 2009 for having the highest rate of deforestation of any country in the world! -

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Reply #23 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 6:53pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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This was a case where Jews had contanimated a well.
Is there anything the filthy yahud are not responsible for?

The prophet said that this well could continue to be used for washing for prayers - after the contaminates had been removed - and it means that water that smells and looks clean can be used for washing prayers - not necessarily for drinking.
Where did he say that? That verse mentions nothing of the sort, he said the water was not defiled by anything.
Would you wash with water that came from a well with a rotting rancid dog carcass along with menstrual blood and other stinking things?

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

There is no verse in the Quran where Allah tells you to boil drinking water to make it safe to drink...

Uncontaminated water does not need to be boiled. I have drunk unboiled water from natural water supplies many times.
A few Cholera epidemics in the Islamic world, must be gods will eh?

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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Allah's apostle commanded the killing of Geckos, and he called them noxious little creatures.
www.sunnah.com/urn/255620

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Allah's messenger said-
He saw a person enjoying himself in paradise because of the tree he cut from the path which was a source of inconvenience to the people.
www.sunnah.com/urn/263410

So MO saw someone in Paradise who cut a tree that was an inconvenience?

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The apostle of allah burned the palm tree of the banu al nadr and cut them down at al buwairah, So Allah the exalted sent down the palm trees you cut down or left.
www.sunnah.com/abudawud/15/139

It sounds like Mo was a slash and burn type of person, the quran tells muslims to follow the example he set in 33/21.

If you get the houris and an everlasting erection to service them for cutting trees that are in the way how does that discourage people from cutting down trees?

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #24 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

moses wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

True Colours wrote:
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Taqiyya again T.C.

There is no taqiyya in Islam. I feel sorry for you that you are so deluded that you cannot see the truth before your eyes.

moses wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

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This claim of yours is so stupid that I am tempted to put this in the 'Islamophobes retarded' thread.

Verse 119 is a continuation of what Satan said he would do to God's servants in retaliation for God cursing him.

No scholar in the history of Islam has ever interpreted verse 119 to be anything other than that.

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Allah cursed him. And he [Shaitan (Satan)] said: "I will take an appointed portion of your slaves; Verily, I will mislead them, and surely, I will arouse in them false desires; and certainly, I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allah." And whoever takes Shaitan (Satan) as a Wali (protector or helper) instead of Allah, has surely suffered a manifest loss.

http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/

Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar translation:
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God cursed him. And Satan said: "Truly, I will take to myself of Thy servants, an apportioned share; and I will cause them to go astray. And I will fill them with false desires. And I will command them, then they will slit the ears of the flocks. And I will command them, and they will alter the creation of God." And whoever takes Satan to himself for a protector other than God, then, surely, he lost, a clear loss.

Al-Muntakhab translation:
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Allah has cursed him and afflicted him with such evils as indicate divine wrath and a malignant fate. His insolence was such as to promise, Allah to incite a determinate number of His servants to evil. "I will lead them wrong," he said, "and I will lead them by the nose to an evil line of conduct and arouse in them vain desires and stir up their sinful sensuous appetite." "I will command them to receive the pagan superstition and slit and cut the ears of cattle and I will command them to change the course and order of things wherein they were set at the creation." And he who puts himself under the tutelage of Al-Shaytan besides Allah, shall have been a great loser.

Muhammad Taqi Usmani translation:
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whom Allah has cursed. He (the Satan) said, "Surely I will take an appointed share from Your slaves; and I will lead them astray, and I will tempt them with false hopes, and I will command them, whereby they shall slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them, whereby they shall alter the creation of Allah." Whoever takes the Satan for friend, instead of Allah, incurs an obvious loss.

Shabbir Ahmed translation:
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Allah has rejected Satan for saying, "Verily, of your servants I will take my due share." (A great many people follow their own Satans and the clergy eats a portion from their wealth in the name of God; that is Satan's share) Satan (Iblis) in allegorical terms had said, "I surely will lead them astray, I will entice them, confound them." According to Satan's promise, these representatives of his mislead men and women away from the Qur'an, and confound them with ritualism and superstitions, such as magic, dreams, astrology, amulets, numerology, ghoul, exorcism, and vain beliefs. Marking cattle's ears, choosing red cows or black goats for specific sacrifices, are superstitions that the clergy propagates. They try to present the Laws of Allah operative in the World of Creation in a distorted fashion. They assign miracles to living or dead "saints" ignoring the Law of Cause and Effect. Whoever befriends this handiwork of Satan, has ignored Allah. Such a person is verily a loser and his loss is manifest.

Dr. Munir Munshey translation:
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Allah cursed (Shaitan), and (in response) he said, "I will lure away a large number of Your servants (as my followers). "I will definitely mislead them. I will certainly stir up vain and wanton desires in them. I will command them and they will split the ears of the cattle _ (a common practice of the idol worshippers). I will persuade them, and they will change and corrupt the nature (of the order) of things that Allah has created." Whoever takes Shaitan as his master instead of Allah, has indeed incurred a severe and significant loss!

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Reply #25 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:23pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

How are you supposed to interpret

"don't change God's creation"

Good question, FD I think

we'll need to ask Y this one

. He's the expert on Islamic doctrine here.

As you wish.

In those words;
"don't change God's creation"
ISLAM/Mohammed is trying to establish 'a standard' in his religion [i.e. a set and immovable 'datum' within the religion of, ISLAM].
To establish an understanding among its followers, that ISLAM is Allah's religion, and to establish that ISLAM is perfect.
THEREFORE, the exhortation to men, "don't change God's creation".

"So set thou thy face steadily and truly to the Faith: (establish) Allah's handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allah: that is the standard Religion: but most among mankind understand not."
Koran 30.30

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innovation in religion, banned, islam

Like i said, ISLAM/Mohammed is trying to set a standard in >> his << [i.e. Mohammed's] religion.
Mohammed was saying that ISLAM [as it was revealed to Mohammed], is 'set in concrete' and is unchangeable - Mohammed/Allah says this, so as to prohibit/prevent any other 'interpretation' of ISLAM, except his own!
So that others must accept ISLAM, as per, being interpreted by Mohammed.

But, Mohammed himself, proved to be, the greatest innovator - OF ISLAM.
e.g.
Mohammed was constantly changing Allah's 'perfect' religion - with every new revelation from Allah, to justify and to sanctify each new lust that Mohammed wished to exercise.

And Mohammed was such an 'innovator' in this regard, that many moslems were beginning to mumble that Allah seemed to often change his mind - depending upon Mohammed's circumstances.

And many moslems [of the age] also noticed how Allah often rushed, to reveal a new instruction, that seemed conveniently designed to satisfy Mohammed's current [carnal] desire.

And this mumbling among the ranks did not go unnoticed by Allah!!

But thankfully, Allah had the presence of mind, to reveal new Koran passages to Mohammed, to explain Allah's double mindedness and his servile nature [towards Mohammed]....

"O ye of Faith! Say not (to the Messenger) words of ambiguous import, but words of respect; and hearken (to him): To those without Faith is a grievous punishment.
It is never the wish of those without Faith among the People of the Book, nor of the Pagans, that anything good should come down to you from your Lord. But Allah will choose for His special Mercy whom He will - for Allah is Lord of grace abounding.
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?"
Koran 2.104-106

Mohammed WAS A FRAUDSTER, and throughout his life, the greatest innovator - OF ISLAM.

And throughout history moslems have been both Mohammed's dupes and his co-fraudsters and innovators - OF ISLAM.

The 'religion' which ALL moslems follow, is called 'Mohammed-ism'.

Mohammad -the role model for muslims
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375098020/51#51

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0

Even Aisha knew that Mohammed was a fraud.

islam murders

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1317254052/28#28
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It is recorded within ISLAMIC texts that even Aisha Mohammed's 9 year old child bride recognised how Allah's always seemed rush to satisfy Mohammed's next, immediate, worldly, desire...

Narrated Aisha:

"I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Apostle and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." "

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #006.060.311

Even Aisha knew that Mohammed was a fraud.

Aisha knew that Mohammed, was a fraud and the author, and the creator, of his own god, benefactor, and his very own divine 'servant', ....Allah.

It was not Mohammed, that served Allah.

It was Allah that was the servant of Mohammed.

Every time that Mohammed wished to exercise a new lust, Mohammed's servant, Allah obligingly presented Mohammed with a new revelation, sanctioning each new lust.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #26 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:28pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Outside of just a handful of cities the place is a desert wasteland.

Another know-it-all who knows nothing.

There are forests in Saudi, Oman, Jordan, Syria, Yemen and Lebanon. I have seen some of them with my own eyes.

Oman:

Yemen

Lebanon

Syria

Jordan

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

There is no tree planting going on anywhere.

This a forest planted in the last few years between Mecca and Jeddah

The forest covers an area of 4 million sq. meters and has some 160 different kinds of trees, some of which are four meters high.

Many plants are available in the forest that provide pleasant smells such as henna and jasmine.

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Reply #27 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 9:55pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Outside of just a handful of cities the place is a desert wasteland.

Another know-it-all who knows nothing.

There are forests in Saudi, Oman, Jordan, Syria, Yemen and Lebanon. I have seen some of them with my own eyes.

Oman:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2010/12/765px-Salalah_Oman.jpg

Yemen

http://www.pumapix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Cloud-Forest-and-Escarpment-in...

http://www.pumapix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Cloud-Forest-in-Hawf1.jpg

Lebanon

http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/lebanon/aabadayat_forest_lebanon_photo_gov.jp...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Lebanon_cedar_forest.jp...

http://www.spnl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Ehden-web-1024x672.jpg

http://www.bloggingbeirut.com/images/may06/theBlanket.jpg

http://www.discoverlebanon.com/en/posters/images/ehden_forest.jpg

Syria

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http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jul2009/20090713_latakia.jpg

http://sana.sy/servers/gallery/201102/20110228-131425_h334172.jpg

Jordan

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http://cdn.greenglobaltravel.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_9569.jpg

http://cdn.greenglobaltravel.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_9575.jpg

http://cdn.greenglobaltravel.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_9685.jpg

http://www.7iber.com/wp-content/uploads/img_9064-570x379.jpg

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

There is no tree planting going on anywhere.

This a forest planted in the last few years between Mecca and Jeddah

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/myfiles/Images/2013/03/12/ki08-big.jpg

The forest covers an area of 4 million sq. meters and has some 160 different kinds of trees, some of which are four meters high.

Many plants are available in the forest that provide pleasant smells such as henna and jasmine.

And here is proof that Australia is a frozen wasteland;

Do you really want to argue that most of the Middle East is not sand and rock? Do you really think you will fool anyone?

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Reply #28 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:34pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

Do you really want to argue that most of the Middle East is not sand and rock? Do you really think you will fool anyone?

You weren't arguing that. You were arguing, in your words:

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

There is no tree planting going on anywhere.

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

The only thing growing in the land of Islam is a collection of plastic bottles and rubbish along the side of the roads.

...and TC has thoroughly blown those silly little claims out of the water.

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Prince Charles: Follow the Islamic Way, Save World
Reply #29 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

Do you really want to argue that most of the Middle East is not sand and rock? Do you really think you will fool anyone?

You weren't arguing that. You were arguing, in your words:

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

There is no tree planting going on anywhere.

Quantum wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

The only thing growing in the land of Islam is a collection of plastic bottles and rubbish along the side of the roads.

...and TC has thoroughly blown those silly little claims out of the water.

No he hasn't. This is what I said;

"Do you really think none of us have been to the home of Islam; The Middle East. Outside of just a handful of cities the place is a desert wasteland. There is no tree planting going on anywhere. Even the cities with them are hardly green. Just a few gardens, mostly around tourist areas and government properties. The only thing growing in the land of Islam is a collection of plastic bottles and rubbish along the side of the roads. When it comes to rees, they haven't exactly had a Napoleon renovating the place."

All he showed were pictures of natural forests plus plantations in and around cities. Where is the evidence of this mass tree planting going on throughout the Islamic lands?

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