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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Why Labor is in deficit. Reply #45 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 10:02am Does Abbott practice what he preaches?
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Why Labor is in deficit. Reply #46 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 10:10am Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 12:21pm: How long will the Libbos take to pay off Labor's debt? I estimate 15 years. so you actually know how much we are in debt.... care to share?
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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #47 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

And where are your ideas?? oh of course... you don't have any beyond this idiotic notion that cabinet should be composed entirely of people who a month ago were teachers, gardeners and union reps. No experience in parliament itself nevermind managing the largest corporation in the country.

so why not actually give us your IDEAS instead of your antiquated and contractirory garbage.

I have frequently & repeatedly put my ideas in writing, following are some examples -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/42#42
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376185892/all
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376351268/7#7

You may have read them & more, but it wouldn't make much difference, your 4R's a just not that flash!

Oh & as I have said many times, the re-instating of the status quo (that you are wanting) simply isn't about to happen!
This time, everyone will have to bear their fair share of the pain, because Pollies (of all description) got it so wrong, over the last 50-60 years!!
However, I have no doubt there will be too many others, like you, who will try to avoid their fair share of the pain, so our problems will be deeper & last longer than they should!!!

you have a truly odd and bizarre concept of 'ideas'. You don't actually propose alternative polices at all. I am sure that deep within the morass inside your head you THINK you are promoting alternative policies but they don't actually make it to the keyboard. Nowhere in your ravings where you lamblast every current version of economic policy do you actually come up with any ACTUAL POLICIES.

you need help - at least in how to write.

1) You're still stuck in SPIN MODE Longy & you still haven't addressed the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE issues behind the Global & Local Economic collapse!
2) YOU are still pretending that Surpluses are the norm, when they are very clearly the exception, both in OZ & Globally. You refer to the Liberal history of Surpluses, which the Libs did have during the Howard era from 1995-2007. However, you disregard the facts that the 1995-2007 period co-incided with the greatest Global Economic boom of any era, as it was also the Peak Baby Boomer years AND you disregard history which says that Debt & Deficits are part of the usual role of government & have been in most countries (as can be seen at the following website), for most of the modern era!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
3) The fundamental problem/s facing Australia is NOT SIMPLE, as you suggest & not just bad forecasting, as you suggest, although clearly forecasting is & has been a problem for quite some time, for both Labor & Liberal thus creating a gross under-estimation of the problems we now face!
4) Your solution, as usual, is simply retsoring the OZ Economy to what it was.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN! IN FACT, IT CAN NOT HAPPEN, because a number of major Economic drivers have changed direction (over time - 50-60 years) and all political party's & Treasury have done what you are doing, ignoring the problems, in hope they will magically disappear.
BUT, THEY WILL NOT, THEY CAN NOT & WE ARE NOW FACED WITH A LONG TERM SYSTEMIC SLOWDOWN, WHICH IS NOW UNAVOIDABLE!

The best we can try for now, is to avoid the worst outcomes, by everyone taking their fair share of pain & by getting stuck into some of the areas I have previously referred to, those being -
a) A concentration on Productivity & I would start with reducing government by one entire level, that being Local Councils & a complete review of Government, including ALL Taxes & All Expenditures!
b) However, this will require great care on specifics, NOT AN ACROSS THE BOARD AUSTERITY DRIVE, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY DRIVE THE ECONOMY FURTHER SOUTH!
c) The thing that neither YOU NOR MAQQA seem capable of comprenhending is ALL ACTIONS & INACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and your simple SPIN WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

THE REAL LOCAL & GLOBAL ECONOMIC DRIVERS ARE NOW -
1) DEMOGRAPHICS
2) ENERGY (LACK OF SUPPLY TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND & RISING PRICES)
3) CLIMATE CHANGE

THE ABOVE ARE BASIC ECONOMIC CAUSES, EVERYTHING ELSE ARE EFFECTS, WHICH FLOW FROM THOSE CAUSES!

You, Maqqa & others, MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE, but THEY ARE NOW THE REALITIES OF GLOBAL ECONOMICS & THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOT FOR QUITE SOME TIME!!!

I suggest YOU get used to this new REALITY & stop dreaming of what used to be, Mr Longy Van Winkle!

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #48 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:53am

sh1t perc give it a rest.. the GFC wasnt our problem remember??? until the left made it our problem...its done its dusted.. for gods sake give it a rest.you are getting as bad as all the rest it all comes back to putting down the messenger...and the name calling....boring and childish.. if you are such a wow as an economist why dont you go and work for rudd I think he could use you.you are wasted on here obviously.

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #49 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:58am

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

sh1t perc give it a rest.. the GFC wasnt our problem remember??? until the left made it our problem...its done its dusted.. for gods sake give it a rest.you are getting as bad as all the rest it all comes back to putting down the messenger...and the name calling....boring and childish.. if you are such a wow as an economist why dont you go and work for rudd I think he could use you.you are wasted on here obviously.

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #50 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 12:21pm:

How long will the Libbos take to pay off Labor's debt?

I estimate 15 years.

LOL

Reminds me of when Jeff Kennett was running for premier, and it was being claimed that it would take 100 years to pay off Victoria's debt.

The debt actually rose during the first few years of Kennet's premiership. The debt was paid off within a decade - and last part of the debt was actually repaid under the Labor Government of Steve Bracks.

The state remained virtually debt free for Brack's entire premiership.

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #51 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:19pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

And where are your ideas?? oh of course... you don't have any beyond this idiotic notion that cabinet should be composed entirely of people who a month ago were teachers, gardeners and union reps. No experience in parliament itself nevermind managing the largest corporation in the country.

so why not actually give us your IDEAS instead of your antiquated and contractirory garbage.

I have frequently & repeatedly put my ideas in writing, following are some examples -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/42#42
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376185892/all
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376351268/7#7

You may have read them & more, but it wouldn't make much difference, your 4R's a just not that flash!

Oh & as I have said many times, the re-instating of the status quo (that you are wanting) simply isn't about to happen!
This time, everyone will have to bear their fair share of the pain, because Pollies (of all description) got it so wrong, over the last 50-60 years!!
However, I have no doubt there will be too many others, like you, who will try to avoid their fair share of the pain, so our problems will be deeper & last longer than they should!!!

you have a truly odd and bizarre concept of 'ideas'. You don't actually propose alternative polices at all. I am sure that deep within the morass inside your head you THINK you are promoting alternative policies but they don't actually make it to the keyboard. Nowhere in your ravings where you lamblast every current version of economic policy do you actually come up with any ACTUAL POLICIES.

you need help - at least in how to write.

1) You're still stuck in SPIN MODE Longy & you still haven't addressed the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE issues behind the Global & Local Economic collapse!
2) YOU are still pretending that Surpluses are the norm, when they are very clearly the exception, both in OZ & Globally. You refer to the Liberal history of Surpluses, which the Libs did have during the Howard era from 1995-2007. However, you disregard the facts that the 1995-2007 period co-incided with the greatest Global Economic boom of any era, as it was also the Peak Baby Boomer years AND you disregard history which says that Debt & Deficits are part of the usual role of government & have been in most countries (as can be seen at the following website), for most of the modern era!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
3) The fundamental problem/s facing Australia is NOT SIMPLE, as you suggest & not just bad forecasting, as you suggest, although clearly forecasting is & has been a problem for quite some time, for both Labor & Liberal thus creating a gross under-estimation of the problems we now face!
4) Your solution, as usual, is simply retsoring the OZ Economy to what it was.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN! IN FACT, IT CAN NOT HAPPEN, because a number of major Economic drivers have changed direction (over time - 50-60 years) and all political party's & Treasury have done what you are doing, ignoring the problems, in hope they will magically disappear.
BUT, THEY WILL NOT, THEY CAN NOT & WE ARE NOW FACED WITH A LONG TERM SYSTEMIC SLOWDOWN, WHICH IS NOW UNAVOIDABLE!

The best we can try for now, is to avoid the worst outcomes, by everyone taking their fair share of pain & by getting stuck into some of the areas I have previously referred to, those being -
a) A concentration on Productivity & I would start with reducing government by one entire level, that being Local Councils & a complete review of Government, including ALL Taxes & All Expenditures!
b) However, this will require great care on specifics, NOT AN ACROSS THE BOARD AUSTERITY DRIVE, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY DRIVE THE ECONOMY FURTHER SOUTH!
c) The thing that neither YOU NOR MAQQA seem capable of comprenhending is ALL ACTIONS & INACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and your simple SPIN WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

THE REAL LOCAL & GLOBAL ECONOMIC DRIVERS ARE NOW -
1) DEMOGRAPHICS
2) ENERGY (LACK OF SUPPLY TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND & RISING PRICES)
3) CLIMATE CHANGE

THE ABOVE ARE BASIC ECONOMIC CAUSES, EVERYTHING ELSE ARE EFFECTS, WHICH FLOW FROM THOSE CAUSES!

You, Maqqa & others, MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE, but THEY ARE NOW THE REALITIES OF GLOBAL ECONOMICS & THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOT FOR QUITE SOME TIME!!!

I suggest YOU get used to this new REALITY & stop dreaming of what used to be, Mr Longy Van Winkle!

and where in this the 964th retelling of the same thing is YOUR SOLUTIONS? You keep claiming to have them so where are they?

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #52 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

sh1t perc give it a rest.. the GFC wasnt our problem remember??? until the left made it our problem...its done its dusted.. for gods sake give it a rest.you are getting as bad as all the rest it all comes back to putting down the messenger...and the name calling....boring and childish.. if you are such a wow as an economist why dont you go and work for rudd I think he could use you.you are wasted on here obviously.

When you say "our problem" Cods, it seems you are saying "the Liberal party" didn't have a hand in where we now find ourselves?
However, as I have said previously, whilst the Liberal party did bring down OZ Debt during the Howard years, they did so, with the assistance of the biggest Global Boom of the modern era & frankly whilst they did a better job than many Politicians overseas, they should have & could have, done much better, as should the Labor party over the last 50-60 years!

Unfortunately Cods, IT (the GFC) IS NOT DONE & DUSTED, the GFC still has a long way to run.
Oh & I am not, putting down the messenger, nor am I name calling except for a select few who deserve what they get, because they hand it out first and even then, I am quite restrained!

Boring & childish? Yes, quite a bit of the Political banter is that!
No, I will not go to work for Rudd, Abbott nor any Political party, as they are now a large part of the problem, they are clearly nothing to do with any solutions!

Btw, I hope you got a little info on your Debt enquiry, from the following site I posted in my earlier reply to Longy -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #53 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

And where are your ideas?? oh of course... you don't have any beyond this idiotic notion that cabinet should be composed entirely of people who a month ago were teachers, gardeners and union reps. No experience in parliament itself nevermind managing the largest corporation in the country.

so why not actually give us your IDEAS instead of your antiquated and contractirory garbage.

I have frequently & repeatedly put my ideas in writing, following are some examples -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/42#42
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376185892/all
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376351268/7#7

You may have read them & more, but it wouldn't make much difference, your 4R's a just not that flash!

Oh & as I have said many times, the re-instating of the status quo (that you are wanting) simply isn't about to happen!
This time, everyone will have to bear their fair share of the pain, because Pollies (of all description) got it so wrong, over the last 50-60 years!!
However, I have no doubt there will be too many others, like you, who will try to avoid their fair share of the pain, so our problems will be deeper & last longer than they should!!!

you have a truly odd and bizarre concept of 'ideas'. You don't actually propose alternative polices at all. I am sure that deep within the morass inside your head you THINK you are promoting alternative policies but they don't actually make it to the keyboard. Nowhere in your ravings where you lamblast every current version of economic policy do you actually come up with any ACTUAL POLICIES.

you need help - at least in how to write.

1) You're still stuck in SPIN MODE Longy & you still haven't addressed the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE issues behind the Global & Local Economic collapse!
2) YOU are still pretending that Surpluses are the norm, when they are very clearly the exception, both in OZ & Globally. You refer to the Liberal history of Surpluses, which the Libs did have during the Howard era from 1995-2007. However, you disregard the facts that the 1995-2007 period co-incided with the greatest Global Economic boom of any era, as it was also the Peak Baby Boomer years AND you disregard history which says that Debt & Deficits are part of the usual role of government & have been in most countries (as can be seen at the following website), for most of the modern era!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
3) The fundamental problem/s facing Australia is NOT SIMPLE, as you suggest & not just bad forecasting, as you suggest, although clearly forecasting is & has been a problem for quite some time, for both Labor & Liberal thus creating a gross under-estimation of the problems we now face!
4) Your solution, as usual, is simply retsoring the OZ Economy to what it was.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN! IN FACT, IT CAN NOT HAPPEN, because a number of major Economic drivers have changed direction (over time - 50-60 years) and all political party's & Treasury have done what you are doing, ignoring the problems, in hope they will magically disappear.
BUT, THEY WILL NOT, THEY CAN NOT & WE ARE NOW FACED WITH A LONG TERM SYSTEMIC SLOWDOWN, WHICH IS NOW UNAVOIDABLE!

The best we can try for now, is to avoid the worst outcomes, by everyone taking their fair share of pain & by getting stuck into some of the areas I have previously referred to, those being -
a) A concentration on Productivity & I would start with reducing government by one entire level, that being Local Councils & a complete review of Government, including ALL Taxes & All Expenditures!
b) However, this will require great care on specifics, NOT AN ACROSS THE BOARD AUSTERITY DRIVE, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY DRIVE THE ECONOMY FURTHER SOUTH!
c) The thing that neither YOU NOR MAQQA seem capable of comprenhending is ALL ACTIONS & INACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and your simple SPIN WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

THE REAL LOCAL & GLOBAL ECONOMIC DRIVERS ARE NOW -
1) DEMOGRAPHICS
2) ENERGY (LACK OF SUPPLY TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND & RISING PRICES)
3) CLIMATE CHANGE

THE ABOVE ARE BASIC ECONOMIC CAUSES, EVERYTHING ELSE ARE EFFECTS, WHICH FLOW FROM THOSE CAUSES!

You, Maqqa & others, MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE, but THEY ARE NOW THE REALITIES OF GLOBAL ECONOMICS & THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOT FOR QUITE SOME TIME!!!

I suggest YOU get used to this new REALITY & stop dreaming of what used to be, Mr Longy Van Winkle!

and where in this the 964th retelling of the same thing is YOUR SOLUTIONS? You keep claiming to have them so where are they?

You truly are 4R's inhibited, Longy!!!

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #54 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

And where are your ideas?? oh of course... you don't have any beyond this idiotic notion that cabinet should be composed entirely of people who a month ago were teachers, gardeners and union reps. No experience in parliament itself nevermind managing the largest corporation in the country.

so why not actually give us your IDEAS instead of your antiquated and contractirory garbage.

I have frequently & repeatedly put my ideas in writing, following are some examples -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/42#42
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376185892/all
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376351268/7#7

You may have read them & more, but it wouldn't make much difference, your 4R's a just not that flash!

Oh & as I have said many times, the re-instating of the status quo (that you are wanting) simply isn't about to happen!
This time, everyone will have to bear their fair share of the pain, because Pollies (of all description) got it so wrong, over the last 50-60 years!!
However, I have no doubt there will be too many others, like you, who will try to avoid their fair share of the pain, so our problems will be deeper & last longer than they should!!!

you have a truly odd and bizarre concept of 'ideas'. You don't actually propose alternative polices at all. I am sure that deep within the morass inside your head you THINK you are promoting alternative policies but they don't actually make it to the keyboard. Nowhere in your ravings where you lamblast every current version of economic policy do you actually come up with any ACTUAL POLICIES.

you need help - at least in how to write.

1) You're still stuck in SPIN MODE Longy & you still haven't addressed the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE issues behind the Global & Local Economic collapse!
2) YOU are still pretending that Surpluses are the norm, when they are very clearly the exception, both in OZ & Globally. You refer to the Liberal history of Surpluses, which the Libs did have during the Howard era from 1995-2007. However, you disregard the facts that the 1995-2007 period co-incided with the greatest Global Economic boom of any era, as it was also the Peak Baby Boomer years AND you disregard history which says that Debt & Deficits are part of the usual role of government & have been in most countries (as can be seen at the following website), for most of the modern era!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
3) The fundamental problem/s facing Australia is NOT SIMPLE, as you suggest & not just bad forecasting, as you suggest, although clearly forecasting is & has been a problem for quite some time, for both Labor & Liberal thus creating a gross under-estimation of the problems we now face!
4) Your solution, as usual, is simply retsoring the OZ Economy to what it was.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN! IN FACT, IT CAN NOT HAPPEN, because a number of major Economic drivers have changed direction (over time - 50-60 years) and all political party's & Treasury have done what you are doing, ignoring the problems, in hope they will magically disappear.
BUT, THEY WILL NOT, THEY CAN NOT & WE ARE NOW FACED WITH A LONG TERM SYSTEMIC SLOWDOWN, WHICH IS NOW UNAVOIDABLE!

The best we can try for now, is to avoid the worst outcomes, by everyone taking their fair share of pain & by getting stuck into some of the areas I have previously referred to, those being -
a) A concentration on Productivity & I would start with reducing government by one entire level, that being Local Councils & a complete review of Government, including ALL Taxes & All Expenditures!
b) However, this will require great care on specifics, NOT AN ACROSS THE BOARD AUSTERITY DRIVE, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY DRIVE THE ECONOMY FURTHER SOUTH!
c) The thing that neither YOU NOR MAQQA seem capable of comprenhending is ALL ACTIONS & INACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and your simple SPIN WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

THE REAL LOCAL & GLOBAL ECONOMIC DRIVERS ARE NOW -
1) DEMOGRAPHICS
2) ENERGY (LACK OF SUPPLY TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND & RISING PRICES)
3) CLIMATE CHANGE

THE ABOVE ARE BASIC ECONOMIC CAUSES, EVERYTHING ELSE ARE EFFECTS, WHICH FLOW FROM THOSE CAUSES!

You, Maqqa & others, MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE, but THEY ARE NOW THE REALITIES OF GLOBAL ECONOMICS & THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOT FOR QUITE SOME TIME!!!

I suggest YOU get used to this new REALITY & stop dreaming of what used to be, Mr Longy Van Winkle!

and where in this the 964th retelling of the same thing is YOUR SOLUTIONS? You keep claiming to have them so where are they?

You truly are 4R's inhibited, Longy!!!

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #55 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

Aw, I'm sorry Longy, I over-estimated your capacity?

Your not just truly
4R's
inhibited, you are BIG TIME 4R'S INHIBITED!

The total sum of your -
R
eading
w
R
iting
a
R
ithmetic
& comp
R
ehension
is ZERO!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #56 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:12pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

Aw, I'm sorry Longy, I over-estimated your capacity?

Your not just truly
4R's
inhibited, you are BIG TIME 4R'S INHIBITED!

The total sum of your -
R
eading
w
R
iting
a
R
ithmetic
& comp
R
ehension
is ZERO!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

and still no answers. still no ideas. still no suggestions.

where are they depression_now?

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #57 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

Aw, I'm sorry Longy, I over-estimated your capacity?

Your not just truly
4R's
inhibited, you are BIG TIME 4R'S INHIBITED!

The total sum of your -
R
eading
w
R
iting
a
R
ithmetic
& comp
R
ehension
is ZERO!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

and still no answers. still no ideas. still no suggestions.

where are they depression_now?

There's already MUCH MORE there than YOU can absorb, with your very limited 4R's capacity!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #58 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:22pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

Aw, I'm sorry Longy, I over-estimated your capacity?

Your not just truly
4R's
inhibited, you are BIG TIME 4R'S INHIBITED!

The total sum of your -
R
eading
w
R
iting
a
R
ithmetic
& comp
R
ehension
is ZERO!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

and still no answers. still no ideas. still no suggestions.

where are they depression_now?

There's already MUCH MORE there than YOU can absorb, with your very limited 4R's capacity!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

well you are the one, pinhead, claiming such insight and knowledge so where are your solutions?

of course... wankers of your limited breeding and education can only COMPLAIN. you never have any actual IDEAS.

you are an empty windbag. no ideas, no thoughts, no use.

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Re: Why Labor is in deficit.
Reply #59 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:14pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

so list them all here, right now. Actual suggestions and solution. No one else has been able to find them in your scribbling's. so there is your challenge. speak to us oh economic oracle and give us your wisdom.

Aw, I'm sorry Longy, I over-estimated your capacity?

Your not just truly
4R's
inhibited, you are BIG TIME 4R'S INHIBITED!

The total sum of your -
R
eading
w
R
iting
a
R
ithmetic
& comp
R
ehension
is ZERO!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

and still no answers. still no ideas. still no suggestions.

where are they depression_now?

There's already MUCH MORE there than YOU can absorb, with your very limited 4R's capacity!

Oh & btw, you still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!

well you are the one, pinhead, claiming such insight and knowledge so where are your solutions?

of course... wankers of your limited breeding and education can only COMPLAIN. you never have any actual IDEAS.

you are an empty windbag. no ideas, no thoughts, no use.

As I said -
1) I have already put up, it is your very limited 4R's capacity that is YOUR PROBLEM!
2) You still haven't answered any of the REAL & SUBSTANTIVE Economic issues, BUT that's not unusual, because you have NFI what is actually happening!
3) SPIN & CALLING PEOPLE NAMES WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING LONGY, YOU MAY TRY DEALING WITH REALITY SOMETIME & you MAY start to get some insights?

For example, why do you pretend that Surpluses are the norm, when they are very clearly the exception, both in OZ & Globally. You refer to the Liberal history of Surpluses, which the Libs did have during the Howard era from 1995-2007. However, you disregard the facts that the 1995-2007 period co-incided with the greatest Global Economic boom of any era, as it was also the Peak Baby Boomer years AND you disregard history which says that Debt & Deficits are part of the usual role of government & have been in most countries (as can be seen at the following website), for most of the modern era!

Reality Longy, when are you going to start living in it, instead of the past & your own head space?

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