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Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 5:17pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 5:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Inner Melbourne is home to society's peripherals.

Environmentalists, homosexuals, high Asian population.

Who knows how these oddballs vote??

( ... not that I carry any prejudice)

Greens - quite OFTEN

and this time, the preferential system so beloved of greenies because it favours them is likely to skewer Adam bandt. A delicious irony to be sure!

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Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

Probably, possibly - but not CERTAINLY

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

They're a pretty "feisty" lot in the electorate of Melbourne

( ... where else would you see a local councillor (Stephen Jolly) constantly re-elected under a blazing
Socialist Party
banner - and home to Australia's first
Greens
council -Yarra ?)

I doubt they'll take too kindly to Tony Abbott doing all he can to see this very active in the local community representative is not returned

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Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:02pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Probably, possibly - but not CERTAINLY

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

They're a pretty "feisty" lot in the electorate of Melbourne

( ... where else would you see a local councillor (Stephen Jolly) constantly re-elected under a blazing
Socialist Party
banner - and home to Australia's first
Greens
council -Yarra ?)

I doubt they'll take too kindly to Tony Abbott doing all he can to see this very active in the local community representative is not returned

I just like the fact that he might get beaten by the very preferential system that got him into power from second place last time. Im also rather happy that he will have ZERO power in the new parliament and he will be lucky to even have his words reported, nevermind taken seriously.

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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens. Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 8:31pm as soon as I see big dumb handfisted writing that looks like a little kid scribbling with crayons I don't even bother reading it.... you already know its dribble..
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Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:00pm

Bandt is polling 48 primary in his seat.
Last election 30 plus percent of Liberal voters preferenced Bandt.
It is an inner city educated seat, they are not dumbfvcks that can't work out how to fill in a HTV card. Roll Eyes

Bandt will hold that seat.
As proven the other night when longy lied by saying 90 % of voters follow HTV cards the real number is 50% and that's an average, voters in electorates like Bandts are educated and don't need to follow HTV cards.

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Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:53pm

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Second, inner city voters are independent types. A study by the Victorian Electoral Commission of voting in four inner city and four country seats at the 2006 election found that fewer than 50 per cent of voters followed their party's how to vote card.

Inner city Liberals are even more individualistic. Most of them don't like head office telling them what to do; they make up their own minds. Moreover, one in five votes in Melbourne in 2010 was cast not at a polling booth, but in pre-poll, postal or absentee voting, where voters don't have how-to-vote cards to tell them what to do.

In 2006, only 39 per cent of inner city Liberal voters followed the party ticket in allocating preferences – including just 30 per cent in the state seat of Melbourne. That is why the Greens narrowly lost the seat: 26 per cent of Liberals ignored the party ticket and gave their preferences to Labor.

Even in 2010, when Bandt won the federal seat, 22 per cent of Liberal voters directed preferences to Labor. At the state election, Liberal head office switched sides and directed preferences to Labor. But 35 per cent of Liberal voters in the seats of Melbourne and Richmond ignored the direction, and gave their preferences to the Greens.

Thanks Crook. I have been wondering about that myself. It will be interesting to see what percentage of Liberal voters follow the how to vote cards.

What percentage does Bandt need, based on current polling?

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Reply #23 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

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Reply #25 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

The Green that the Libs preferences put in power to be specific ????

We got the fixed carbon price thanks to Liberal preferences.

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Reply #26 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

The Green that the Libs preferences put in power to be specific ????

We got the fixed carbon price thanks to Liberal preferences.

I guess they didnt see Julia Gilliard breaking her no carbon tax pledge the way she did and changed everything in the polls after that since.

remember Dna, it was labor who made the deal to scramble together whatever government they get together to stay in power.

not the liberals

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Reply #27 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:13pm

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

The Green that the Libs preferences put in power to be specific ????

We got the fixed carbon price thanks to Liberal preferences.

I guess they didnt see Julia Gilliard breaking her no carbon tax pledge the way she did and changed everything in the polls after that since.

remember Dna, it was labor who made the deal to scramble together whatever government they get together to stay in power.

not the liberals

Abbott offered everything Plus more to get power. He would have been very happy to make the same deal.

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Re: Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.
Reply #28 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:14pm

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

The Green that the Libs preferences put in power to be specific ????

We got the fixed carbon price thanks to Liberal preferences.

I guess they didnt see Julia Gilliard breaking her no carbon tax pledge the way she did and changed everything in the polls after that since.

remember Dna, it was labor who made the deal to scramble together whatever government they can get together to stay in power.

not the liberals

Quite frankly i will guess that the people will remember that more than the liberals preferencing adam bandt to gain that one seat.

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Re: Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.
Reply #29 - Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:23pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Will Liberal Preference Decision Hurt Greens.

In 20 years the Libs referenced the greens in one seat and it bit them on the bum. The Greens have only ever had one lower house rep.

All this does is to return to the status Quo.

No big deal.

Yes, but we had the last three years didnt we ?, one in which Julia gilliard was unpopular and that brought down the labor partys popularity in the polls for 3 years in a row all because of a deal WITH THE GREENS. !!!!

The Green that the Libs preferences put in power to be specific ????

We got the fixed carbon price thanks to Liberal preferences.

I guess they didnt see Julia Gilliard breaking her no carbon tax pledge the way she did and changed everything in the polls after that since.

remember Dna, it was labor who made the deal to scramble together whatever government they get together to stay in power.

not the liberals

Abbott offered everything Plus more to get power. He would have been very happy to make the same deal.

I guess if you wanna believe in Tony Windsor who discovered an amazing power trip thanks to the electoral outcome circumstances at that time and a handshake with Julia gilliard. Cheesy

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