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They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. (Read 23018 times)
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Reply #120 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.
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Reply #121 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:26am
 
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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #122 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.


Exactly. Educate them that if they fail drugs testing they lose their welfare.

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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #123 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.


Exactly. Educate them that if they fail drugs testing they lose their welfare.



And so the 95% of honest ppl should have to front up for the indignity of drug testing? And the expense too. they brought it in an america and only caught a handful of ppl and it cost them a packet to do the testing. Of course thats why its even being thought of here anyway - the yanks did it.

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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #124 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:57am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:45am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.


Exactly. Educate them that if they fail drugs testing they lose their welfare.



And so the 95% of honest ppl should have to front up for the indignity of drug testing? And the expense too. they brought it in an america and only caught a handful of ppl and it cost them a packet to do the testing. Of course thats why its even being thought of here anyway - the yanks did it.

SOB


I don't care what the yanks did.

Do you think we should give people welfare and let them spend it on drugs?

Where do your statistics come from?

Indignity!!! People have drug tests at work all the time, even in your car.

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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #125 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:03am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.


Exactly. Educate them that if they fail drugs testing they lose their welfare.




No, I certainly couldn't condone a draconian policy like that.


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Reply #126 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:03am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:36am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 9:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:39am:
muso wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 7:33am:
There are examples where they pool their dole, share a house for next to nothing per person, smoke drugs and drink alcohol.



You sure we're not talking about envy here?






Do you think the government should try and stop people spending welfare on illicit drugs?



Through education?  Most certainly.


Exactly. Educate them that if they fail drugs testing they lose their welfare.




No, I certainly couldn't condone a draconian policy like that.




Oh how draconian - stopping people from using welfare payments to break the law.

Roll Eyes just terrible....
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Reply #127 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:57am:
Do you think we should give people welfare and let them spend it on drugs?



What are your policy parameters?

Do you just want to stop them spending the money on illicit drugs, and that's all?  Would alcohol and cigarettes be OK?

What about entertainment?  Can they go to the cinema?  If so, are they allowed to see violent films, or just G-rated Disney flicks?

Would you allow them to spend their money on tickets to a Nickelback concert, or just Michael Buble?

Can they spend their money on junk food?  What about ice creams: can they buy their kids an ice cream?  Coke?  What about bottled water?

Undecided





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Reply #128 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:18am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am:
Oh how draconian - stopping people from using welfare payments to break the law.

Roll Eyes just terrible....



Would you also stop people who are not on welfare from using their money to break the law?

If not, why not?
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Reply #129 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:25am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:57am:
Do you think we should give people welfare and let them spend it on drugs?



What are your policy parameters?

Do you just want to stop them spending the money on illicit drugs, and that's all?  Would alcohol and cigarettes be OK?

What about entertainment?  Can they go to the cinema?  If so, are they allowed to see violent films, or just G-rated Disney flicks?

Would you allow them to spend their money on tickets to a Nickelback concert, or just Michael Buble?

Can they spend their money on junk food?  What about ice creams: can they buy their kids an ice cream?  Coke?  What about bottled water?

Undecided




Spending welfare payment breaking the law would be top of my list.

I'd gradually rule out cigarettes as well. Alcohol could be looked at in future.

And a facial metal detector test as well - people on unemployment should be made look employable. You rock up looking like a half dead vombie with a face full of matal - you're just not having as go.

If you buy bottled water you're a dam drop kick... Grin Grin
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Reply #130 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:29am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:18am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am:
Oh how draconian - stopping people from using welfare payments to break the law.

Roll Eyes just terrible....



Would you also stop people who are not on welfare from using their money to break the law?

If not, why not?



It's not legal for anyone to buy and use certain drugs - you do know that.....don't you?

The laws are already in place.

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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #131 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:39am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:18am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am:
Oh how draconian - stopping people from using welfare payments to break the law.

Roll Eyes just terrible....



Would you also stop people who are not on welfare from using their money to break the law?

If not, why not?



It's not legal for anyone to buy and use certain drugs - you do know that.....don't you?

The laws are already in place.

Shocked



So, you're telling me that nobody breaks the law?

Really?
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Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat.
Reply #132 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:42am
 
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:25am:
And a facial metal detector test as well - people on unemployment should be made look employable. You rock up looking like a half dead vombie with a face full of matal - you're just not having as go.



Unless, of course, you want a job at JB HiFi.


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Reply #133 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:39am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:18am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:16am:
Oh how draconian - stopping people from using welfare payments to break the law.

Roll Eyes just terrible....



Would you also stop people who are not on welfare from using their money to break the law?

If not, why not?



It's not legal for anyone to buy and use certain drugs - you do know that.....don't you?

The laws are already in place.

Shocked



So, you're telling me that nobody breaks the law?

Really?


Where on earth did i say that?

Welfare payments should not be used to purchse and use illegal drugs. And every means should be used to ensure it does not happen, including drug testing.

Do drugs = no welfare - simple.

Do you have a point to make, at all.... Huh
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Reply #134 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 1:16pm
 
I beleive some US states are already drug testing welfare recipients. If we did that here we would cut our dole bill by 2 thirds.
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