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Reply #180 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:28pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

Current OZ opening bowler Peter Siddle is vegetarian.

maybe if he ate some meat it would put more umph in his bowling ...

The way the Aussies are playing at the moment, I wouldn't choose cricketers as an example for vegetarianism.

I’ll choose any example I dam want to thanks Joan.

Siddle has 167 wickets @ 28.5 at an economy of 2.98 and a strike rate of 57.5 all of which are excellent test cricket statistics.

Chappell, regarded as one of our best, made 7000 test runs @ 53.8 and 24000 1st class runs at 52.

So that makes my examples pretty pertinent and your reply somewhat maroonic, but true to form….perhaps you need a good steak? Or better still some “brain food”.

It’s been fun owning you again, cheers. Grin

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Reply #181 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:58pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 11:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:14am:

Health is relative. If youre happy being a skinnyfat weed, then yes vegetarianism is ample.

You seem to have a very limited understanding of vegetarianism (and probably veganism).

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders

http://vegetarianbodybuilder.com/160/178.html

Meat industry protein propaganda has a lot to answer for (they make money selling meat, you know).

Mmm. And yet, if it was ideal all the top sportspeople would be doing it. They don't because it's very difficult to get high performance without meat, wouldn't you agree?

I keep hearing about this "meat propaganda", but I don't recall seeing any, unless you mean those lame "eat lamb on australia day" ads. I guess the best propaganda is that which you don't recognise - Could you help a brutha out and provide some examples of this insdious scourge of propaganda?

I'm not saying it's "ideal".

I'm saying this statement is incorrect:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

Propaganda examples:

- those lame "eat lamb on Australia day" ads.
- those lame Sam Neill ads.

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Reply #182 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:58pm:

I'm saying this statement is incorrect:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

And I'm saying you're incorrect that the statement is incorrect. If you define 'healthy' as 'healthier than the shittiest, scabbiest, fattest slob' then yes, but I've got more exacting standards.

If you can't pull or push your own body weight = not healthy.
If you can't run a mile in under 5 minutes = not healthy.

And so on, and so forth. Even your own "vegatrain bodybuilder" link endorses animal protein, in the form of eggs.

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Reply #183 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:55pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:58pm:

I'm saying this statement is incorrect:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

And I'm saying you're incorrect that the statement is incorrect.

I'm correct.

There's nothing I can do about other people's ignorance.

Believe what you want to believe.

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Reply #184 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:58pm

FriYAY wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

Current OZ opening bowler Peter Siddle is vegetarian.

maybe if he ate some meat it would put more umph in his bowling ...

The way the Aussies are playing at the moment, I wouldn't choose cricketers as an example for vegetarianism.

I’ll choose any example I dam want to thanks Joan.

Siddle has 167 wickets @ 28.5 at an economy of 2.98 and a strike rate of 57.5 all of which are excellent test cricket statistics.

Chappell, regarded as one of our best, made 7000 test runs @ 53.8 and 24000 1st class runs at 52.

So that makes my examples pretty pertinent and your reply somewhat maroonic, but true to form….perhaps you need a good steak? Or better still some “brain food”.

It’s been fun owning you again, cheers. Grin

seems like you'd had to much cabbage lately ..... the expansion of the gases created in your body seem to be putting pressure on what little brains you have.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #185 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:59pm In Australia, those on the dole are complaining that they can't afford to buy/eat meat. In other countries, the dole doesn't exist and people don't have anything to eat .. let alone meat. Food for thought ( pun intended ).
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Reply #186 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:10pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:43pm:

. Even your own "vegatrain bodybuilder" link endorses animal protein, in the form of eggs.

Do you understand what a vegan is?

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/367822-is-it-necessary-for-humans-to-eat-anima...

Myth: "It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #187 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:18pm In Australia, those on the dole are complaining that they can't afford to buy/eat meat. This is why the people on Newstart ( no start ) need a $50 a week increase.
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Reply #188 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:10pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:43pm:

. Even your own "vegatrain bodybuilder" link endorses animal protein, in the form of eggs.

Do you understand what a vegan is?

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/367822-is-it-necessary-for-humans-to-eat-anima...

Myth: "It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

http://www.leer-leren.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MythBusted.gif

Do you know what very difficult means?

Hint: it doesnt mean impossible.

Did you know I was referencing your earlier link, which you have now replaced with another? I'm sure that was becasue you misplaced the link, not becasue you realised too late that it undermined your own argument, so here it is, for you:

http://vegetarianbodybuilder.com/160/178.html

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Reply #189 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:25pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 2:58pm:

FriYAY wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

Current OZ opening bowler Peter Siddle is vegetarian.

maybe if he ate some meat it would put more umph in his bowling ...

The way the Aussies are playing at the moment, I wouldn't choose cricketers as an example for vegetarianism.

I’ll choose any example I dam want to thanks Joan.

Siddle has 167 wickets @ 28.5 at an economy of 2.98 and a strike rate of 57.5 all of which are excellent test cricket statistics.

Chappell, regarded as one of our best, made 7000 test runs @ 53.8 and 24000 1st class runs at 52.

So that makes my examples pretty pertinent and your reply somewhat maroonic, but true to form….perhaps you need a good steak? Or better still some “brain food”.

It’s been fun owning you again, cheers. Grin

seems like you'd had to much cabbage lately ..... the expansion of the gases created in your body seem to be putting pressure on what little brains you have.

LOL

I know, I’ll make a pissy little comeback, that will gloss over the fact that FirYAY has owned my poor dumb arse again..

Oh my goodness Joan, it just won’t do.

You know the saying – when you find yourself in a hole “STOP DIGGING”

Grin

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #190 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:44pm Oh my, people are apparently being "owned" in here. What sad and tragic times some of us must live in.
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Reply #191 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:16pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:14am:

Health is relative. If youre happy being a skinnyfat weed, then yes vegetarianism is ample.

This guy is a vegan. To me, vegans are just plain weird, but he seems to survive ok as a "skinnyfat weed"

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Rich is an elite-level amateur ultra-distance endurance athlete who has competed in the toughest events in the world. He adopted a vegan diet when, at age 40, he realised his health and fitness were at very poor levels. He is also an advocate for a plant based diet, which he believes played a large part in his transition from an unhealthy middle-aged man to the top-level athlete he is today. He is a regular ultraman competitior which involves a 10km swim, cycling over 200 miles and running a double marathon.

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Reply #192 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:28pm

muso wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:16pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:14am:

Health is relative. If youre happy being a skinnyfat weed, then yes vegetarianism is ample.

This guy is a vegan. To me, vegans are just plain weird, but he seems to survive ok as a "skinnyfat weed"
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/field...

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Rich is an elite-level amateur ultra-distance endurance athlete who has competed in the toughest events in the world. He adopted a vegan diet when, at age 40, he realised his health and fitness were at very poor levels. He is also an advocate for a plant based diet, which he believes played a large part in his transition from an unhealthy middle-aged man to the top-level athlete he is today. He is a regular ultraman competitior which involves a 10km swim, cycling over 200 miles and running a double marathon.

The guy pictured in that link is a closet meat eater. Fact!

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #193 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 4:48pm Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:44pm: Oh my, people are apparently being "owned" in here. What sad and tragic times some of us must live in. You mean to make a lame post like yours? I do agree. Get a life LJ……..
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Reply #194 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:06am:

Sappho wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 4:41pm:

It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ...

Incorrect.

Not only is is not "very difficult", it is not even "difficult".

It seems the meat industry's protein propaganda has worked very well on you.

It is correct moron. And if you bothered to keep it in context, you wouldn't be looking so stupid now!

As I said... although I acknowledge that with the right level of knowledge on food nutrition, it can be done. It is also true that

most people lack the nutritional knowledge to live healthily without animal protein.

Now f off and find a preppy to play with.

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