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Reply #225 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:00pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

No, skinnyfat weed is an apt description for the vast majority of vegetarian/vegans. The fact you have to scrape so deep to find so few should give you some inkling of a rule.

Vegans maybe, but they're weird. Vegos are very rarely that skinny. Most eat too much cheese.

So you prefer the beerbelly look to the skinnyfat look ?

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Reply #226 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:00pm

muso wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

From my experience, in my "eat anything" days, I ended up with high cholesterol.

I'll let you in a little secret. Do you know why dieticians endorse vegetarian diets? It's not because they're ideal, it's because most people who see a dietician are too dumb to differentiate between a double quarter pounder meal and a serve of lean meat and 3 veg. But even these cretins can differentiate between meat (contained in almost every processed/takeaway meal) and plant products.

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Reply #227 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:04pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:00pm:

muso wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:56pm:

From my experience, in my "eat anything" days, I ended up with high cholesterol.

I'll let you in a little secret. Do you know why dieticians endorse vegetarian diets? It's not because they're ideal, it's because most people who see a dietician are too dumb to differentiate between a double quarter pounder meal and a serve of lean meat and 3 veg. But even these cretins can differentiate between meat (contained in almost every processed/takeaway meal) and plant products.

- or maybe they just don't see nutrition as a high enough priority in a hectic lifestyle. That was me.

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Reply #228 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:38pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 3:19pm:

... not becasue you realised too late that it undermined your own argument, so here it is, for you:

I'm not presenting an argument, I'm just presenting the facts.

This statement is incorrect:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

Not sure why you're struggling so much with this.

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Reply #229 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:42pm

Sappho wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:06am:

Sappho wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 4:41pm:

It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ...

Incorrect.

Not only is is not "very difficult", it is not even "difficult".

It seems the meat industry's protein propaganda has worked very well on you.

It is correct moron.

No, it's not actually.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Moreover, calling people morons does nothing to persuade people that your ignorant statements are worthy of any attention.

Sorry.

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Reply #230 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:50pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:27pm:

muso wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:17pm:

You were implying that you wouldn't reach peak efficiency on a vegan diet.

I don't need to imply that - I'll say that outright. Anything you can achieve on a vegan diet can be bettered without restrictions.

muso wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 8:17pm:

You didn't say anything about it being "difficult".

Actually, I've used that exact phrase at least 3 times. It's based on this:

Quote:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

Greggery seems to think it's an incorrect statement, whereas I say it is true and correct. That's the argument.

No, not "thinks". It's actually an incorrect statement.

Your inability to accept this fact is quite alarming.

Do you believe the earth is flat?

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Reply #233 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:56pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:52pm:

You're wrong greg. the statement in question is not.

Incorrect.

The evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise.

Sorry.

Then why haven't you posted any of this evidence?

Muso has posted some good stuff from the AIS - you should check it out.

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Reply #234 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:00pm

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It’s worth noting that although a vegetarian diet can provide all essential nutrients to support intense daily training and competition, there are several dietary challenges faced by athletes following a vegetarian diet.

Those challenges can be quite challenging. One might even say they are...difficult.

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Reply #235 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:01pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:56pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:52pm:

You're wrong greg. the statement in question is not.

Incorrect.

The evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise.

Sorry.

Then why haven't you posted any of this evidence?

I have.

Scroll back (don't ask me again, just do it. Not the bodybuilders either ... before that).

The statement is 100% incorrect. Not only is it incorrect, it's extremely naive. Hard to believe that someone in 2013 could actually believe that.

Sorry.

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Reply #236 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:01pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:56pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:52pm:

You're wrong greg. the statement in question is not.

Incorrect.

The evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise.

Sorry.

Then why haven't you posted any of this evidence?

I have.

Scroll back (don't ask me again, just do it. Not the bodybuilders either ... before that).

The statement is 100% incorrect. Not only is it incorrect, it's extremely naive. Hard to believe that someone in 2013 could actually believe that.

Sorry.

All those links (possibly) proved was that it's possible.

the fact they are such isolated cases lends considerable support to the assertion that it is however, difficult.

Your inability to differentiate between the difficult and the impossible is quite alarming.

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Reply #237 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:06pm

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:01pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:56pm:

... wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 9:52pm:

You're wrong greg. the statement in question is not.

Incorrect.

The evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise.

Sorry.

Then why haven't you posted any of this evidence?

I have.

Scroll back (don't ask me again, just do it. Not the bodybuilders either ... before that).

The statement is 100% incorrect. Not only is it incorrect, it's extremely naive. Hard to believe that someone in 2013 could actually believe that.

Sorry.

All those links (possibly) proved was that it's possible.

the fact they are such isolated cases lends considerable support to the assertion that it is however, difficult.

Your inability to differentiate between the difficult and the impossible is quite alarming.

Read it one more time, and see if you can spot what it is that you're missing (over and over again).

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

OK, I'm going to make it easier for you this time:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

That better?

Roll Eyes

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Reply #238 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:08pm

Oh I note another link.

http://goodfoodproject.net/home/resources/what-the-experts-say/protein-what-the-...

All I can see on the this one is that protein needs can be met without meat. However, the problem is, that wasn't in dispute.

Your inability to understand that health consists of more than simply protein intake is alarming, to say the least.

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Reply #239 - Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:06pm:

Honky wrote Today at 10:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 10:01pm:
Honky wrote Today at 9:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 9:56pm:
Honky wrote Today at 9:52pm:
You're wrong greg. the statement in question is not.

Incorrect.

The evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise.

Sorry.

Then why haven't you posted any of this evidence?

I have.

Scroll back (don't ask me again, just do it. Not the bodybuilders either ... before that).

The statement is 100% incorrect. Not only is it incorrect, it's extremely naive. Hard to believe that someone in 2013 could actually believe that.

Sorry.

All those links (possibly) proved was that it's possible.

the fact they are such isolated cases lends considerable support to the assertion that it is however, difficult.

Your inability to differentiate between the difficult and the impossible is quite alarming.

Read it one more time, and see if you can spot what it is that you're missing (over and over again).

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

OK, I'm going to make it easier for you this time:

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ".

That better?

Roll Eyes

So how difficult will you accept?

Somewhat difficult?
Quite difficult?
Moderately difficult?
Moderate-high-difficulty?

Quiet the hole you've dug for yourself - You should have stuck to the illegal boat people threads.

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