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Reply #270 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:52am:

And it just goes on, and on ...

" ... more current and former professional athletes than you would think have given up animal proteins and turned to a variety of alternative veggie-based diets instead."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-daily-meal/10-vegetarian-athletes_b_862738.htm...

Well no, it doesn't go on and on. That's why these links use the same handful of examples over and over again. Indeed, the very fact that they need to provide lists confirms their status as outliers.

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Reply #272 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

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Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

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Reply #273 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....which nearly everyone thinks they do, but really don't.

Some people even think doctors are a good source of dietary advice - canya believe it?

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Reply #274 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:36pm

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....

Oh dear

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Reply #275 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:38pm

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....which nearly everyone thinks they do, but really don't.

Some people even think doctors are a good source of dietary advice - canya believe it?

Ppl that eat only meat and no vegetables arent healthy. Anyone can be a poor planner no matter what they eat.

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Reply #276 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....

Oh dear

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/dotec/ClutchingStraws.jpg

You do know there's degrees dedicated to nutrition and dietetics don't you?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137894 Gender:	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #277 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:41pm ... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm: Some people even think doctors are a good source of dietary advice - canya believe it? Crazy, innit? If you want dietary advice you go to a mechanic. Everyone knows that.
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Reply #278 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:42pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....which nearly everyone thinks they do, but really don't.

Some people even think doctors are a good source of dietary advice - canya believe it?

Ppl that eat only meat and no vegetables arent healthy. Anyone can be a poor planner no matter what they eat.

SOB

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While I wouldn't recommend it, it's not necessarily true:

The Inuit ParadoxHow can people who gorge on fat and rarely see a vegetable be healthier than we are?

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Reply #279 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Some people even think doctors are a good source of dietary advice - canya believe it?

Crazy, innit?

If you want dietary advice you go to a mechanic. Everyone knows that.

No, you'd see a dietician. But you'd be just as well served at a mechanic as a doctor - they have the same "heard it through the grapevine" understanding as anyone else.

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Reply #280 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:47pm

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Could you point me to the part where they talk about the difficulty involved? that's probably the reason why they say 'appropriately planned' whaddya reckon?

Sooo uh...was there some other point you wanted to make? If not, I'll just once again remind you of the difference between the impossible and the difficult.

Planning isn't "very difficult".

"It is very difficult to have a consistently healthy diet without animal protein in that diet ". Undecided

No. No it is not.

It is if you don't have the expertise to plan correctly....

Oh dear

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/dotec/ClutchingStraws.jpg

You do know there's degrees dedicated to nutrition and dietetics don't you?

Those crazy vegans:

"It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein as long as calorie intake is adequate. Strict protein planning or combining is not necessary. The key is to eat a varied diet."

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm

They don't seem to be struggling.

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Reply #282 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:51pm

The vegetarians don't seem to find it "very difficult".

"Vegetarians easily meet their protein needs by eating a varied diet, as long as they consume enough calories to maintain their weight."

"It is not necessary to plan combinations of foods. A mixture of proteins throughout the day will provide enough "essential amino acids."

"(See "Position of the American Dietetic Association: Vegetarian Diets," JADA, July 2009; Simply Vegan, 2006; and nutrition information on VRG's website, www.vrg.org.)"

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/nutshell.htm#nut

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Reply #283 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

The vegetarians don't seem to find it "very difficult".

"Vegetarians easily meet their protein needs by eating a varied diet, as long as they consume enough calories to maintain their weight."

"It is not necessary to plan combinations of foods. A mixture of proteins throughout the day will provide enough "essential amino acids."

"(See "Position of the American Dietetic Association: Vegetarian Diets," JADA, July 2009; Simply Vegan, 2006; and nutrition information on VRG's website, www.vrg.org.)"

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/nutshell.htm#nut

Once again, meeting recommended protein requirements =/= a healthy diet.

Greenhorns always make this mistake.

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