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Reply #75 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:21am

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

and would you limit yourself to a stew diet friyay, I don't think so.

if you had no choice.. whats wrong with it??

but the unemployed person shouldn't have No choice, that's the point in a society that can and will provide welfare payments to the poor or non working people.

no one should have to live like this. and if they do it means there is a catistropic failure in our society to care about its people.

topic. no meat to eat.

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Reply #76 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:28am

True Blue... wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 11:15pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 10:41pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:19pm:

Why do some people persist with this idea that we should have the right to dictate how they spend their money.

I couldn't care less, it's their business, not ours.

Despite what some may think.

because its not THEIR money...

its

MY

money that I gave to them to feed their families...

not drink beers, smoke cigarette or put down the poker machines... Angry

the unemployed should only get food stamps...

as for meat..

so smacking what...

Australians are a bunch of fat bastards who need to lose weight... and to lose weight you need to eat less saturated fats that come out of MEAT...

go vegetarian and eat meat on special occasions like family BBQ's etc... you'll appreciate and enjoy it more anyways...

Then demand that they all don't spend that twentieth of a cent that you contribute to each of them via your taxes each year on anything but the necessities.

I'm sure they'd be only too pleased to comply.

As for my twentieth of a cent they get?
Go nuts, guys and gals....

Yep!

Their lives are generally miserable enough as it is, how dare some of us sit here thinking of ways to make it even worse.

And no, True Blue. once it's in their bank, it IS THEIR MONEY and we should have NO say in how they spend it.

bullshit.. why would their lives be miserable?

get off your asses and make something of your lives...

low socioeconomic breed this low socioeconomic bullshit excuses that somehow the world owes them a living... not one of the lazy fvckers could or would grow a vegetable like a tomato or potato to help feed their families..

no more excuses.. get off our lazy asses and work some... get onto Tony Abbotts green schemes and be "useful" for once in your pathetic lives...

do some "work", do it for someone else and not because you have to... you may just feel good about yourself... feel the "self worth" ... be productive...

stop asking for an extra $50 a week like some pathetic beggar... if you want an extra $50 then find a way to work for it and "EARN" it...

you may just feel better about yourself... you family may just feel better about you... have some pride.. have some self respect... get off you fat lazy ass and your children may come to even respect ou for doing so..

well true blue you bastard if you don't like your tax payers money being used so a unemployed person can try to survive, well then provide them with a job.

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Reply #77 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:08am

warrigal wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:28am:

[well true blue you bastard if you don't like your tax payers money being used so a unemployed person can try to survive, well then provide them with a job.

oh dear lord... Grin

listen, you've missed my point...I don't begrudge people on welfare getting a few bucks to live but it pisses me off when I see it being wasted on smokes, alcohol, tattoos, excessive mobile phone usage...

what's that got to do with surviving?

if you can buy all of those things then you are obviously getting too much money... and you see it all of the time...

my daughter is at home raising her daughter but she knits things and sells them for extra money...

she has never asked for a raise in welfare like some of the bludgers on here....

for the long term unemployed there are free courses that you can do to improve your chances of getting a job... get off your lazy asses and go do them...

I have literally done hundreds of courses throughout my life... some maybe considered worthless as to getting employment but you need to keep your mind active and sharp... if people see that you are willing to participate in courses and you have passed them it shows that you are willing, and can, to learn a new job...

if you want to see more employment in Australia then don't vote Labor... immigrants will get your job...

don't vote Labor who brought in the Carbon Tax that have made our manufacturing industry uncompetitive and who are now closing down...

and this is the thing... even your vote could lead to you getting employed again...

but some of the beggars on here who are trying to scrounge an extra $50 welfare vote for parties and polices (stupid greens and labor) that will see millions of Australians out of work...

it is beyond belief that they would sabotage themselves in this way... Shocked

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: They Are Simply Too Poor To Eat Meat. Reply #78 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:30am true blue this topic is not about wasted money on cigarettes, alcohol etc, its about people not being unable to afford to buy meat. oh and we are not just asking for an extra $50 in the dole payment, we are asking for something a bit more valuable to us, respect. it means a lot.
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Reply #79 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:32am

warrigal wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

true blue this topic is not about wasted money on cigarettes, alcohol etc, its about people being unable to afford to buy meat.

I know that... give up the fags and booze and you will be able to buy more food..

it's not rocket surgery... Shocked

and who says you have to eat a stack of meat anyways... ?

in the past week the only meat that I've had is half a chicken parma..

and wow... I miraculously survived the week without dying ... Shocked

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Reply #80 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:33am

warrigal wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

true blue this topic is not about wasted money on cigarettes, alcohol etc, its about people being unable to afford to buy meat.

All topics move on and evolve as posts generate.

Just have a quick look at all the "off topic" nonsense posted in this one .. you'll note that some of it has been posted by yourself.

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Reply #81 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:38am

True Blue... wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

warrigal wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

true blue this topic is not about wasted money on cigarettes, alcohol etc, its about people being unable to afford to buy meat.

I don't smoke or drink alcohol

I know that... give up the fags and booze and you will be able to buy more food..

it's not rocket surgery... Shocked

I don't smoke or drink alcohol, neither do the people talked about in this post.

they still can't afford to buy meat.

fact.

after a facts needs to come a solution. and just telling them they are mis mangering there money isn't a solution.

your comments about employment and political partys,

polical partys don't make employment available , people do, people get other people jobs.

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Reply #83 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:22am

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Money given is different to money earned. An employer can't tell an employee how to spend their money because they have worked for it. A government can put conditions onto money it gives out.

Really?

And who made this rule?

The government gives the money in a form of a voucher, therefore limiting the spending of the payment to only that which the government has designated the payment for. The government already does that right now for a variety of things.

Vouchers are not money. They have monetary value, however, they are not money.

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Reply #84 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Money given is different to money earned. An employer can't tell an employee how to spend their money because they have worked for it. A government can put conditions onto money it gives out.

Really?

And who made this rule?

The government gives the money in a form of a voucher, therefore limiting the spending of the payment to only that which the government has designated the payment for. The government already does that right now for a variety of things.

Vouchers are not money. They have monetary value, however, they are not money.

Same diff.

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Reply #85 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:37am

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Money given is different to money earned. An employer can't tell an employee how to spend their money because they have worked for it. A government can put conditions onto money it gives out.

Really?

And who made this rule?

The government gives the money in a form of a voucher, therefore limiting the spending of the payment to only that which the government has designated the payment for. The government already does that right now for a variety of things.

Vouchers are not money. They have monetary value, however, they are not money.

Same diff.

In that case, you would have no problem at all if your employer paid you in vouchers?

"Same diff", right?

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Reply #86 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Money given is different to money earned. An employer can't tell an employee how to spend their money because they have worked for it. A government can put conditions onto money it gives out.

Really?

And who made this rule?

The government gives the money in a form of a voucher, therefore limiting the spending of the payment to only that which the government has designated the payment for. The government already does that right now for a variety of things.

Vouchers are not money. They have monetary value, however, they are not money.

Same diff.

In that case, you would have no problem at all if your employer paid you in vouchers?

"Same diff", right?

No, because the employer has no right to dictate what their employees buy with their wage. They earned the money, end of story.

If the government is going to financially help people it has ever right to specify how those finances will be used.

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Reply #87 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:54am

Quantum wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

No, because the employer has no right to dictate what their employees buy with their wage. They earned the money, end of story.

Yes, they earned the "money".

Vouchers aren't money.

Quantum wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

If the government is going to financially help people it has ever right to specify how those finances will be used.

Why?

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Reply #88 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

No, because the employer has no right to dictate what their employees buy with their wage. They earned the money, end of story.

Yes, they earned the "money".

Vouchers aren't money.

Quantum wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

If the government is going to financially help people it has ever right to specify how those finances will be used.

Why?

The only 'justification' for vouchers or food-stamps is to visibly separate, denigrate and
discriminate against the unemployed for NO valid reason but that they are unemployed.

It helps no-one, and is punitive, vindictive and discriminatory.

The suggestion should be categorically rejected whenever it rears its ugly head.

Becoming unemployed does not mean you automatically lose the ability to manage your
money, and it is patronising and offensive in the extreme to claim such as fact.

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Reply #89 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Money given is different to money earned. An employer can't tell an employee how to spend their money because they have worked for it. A government can put conditions onto money it gives out.

Really?

And who made this rule?

The government gives the money in a form of a voucher, therefore limiting the spending of the payment to only that which the government has designated the payment for. The government already does that right now for a variety of things.

Vouchers are not money. They have monetary value, however, they are not money.

Same diff.

In that case, you would have no problem at all if your employer paid you in vouchers?

"Same diff", right?

I WORKED, PAID TAX and EARNED my money.

If someone GIVES ME A HANDOUT .. then they also have the right to tell me how they want it used.

2 very different scenarios. It's quite sad that you can't grasp this .. or is it that you just don't want to?

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