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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: libs defend drug dealers Reply #15 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:24pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? But this isn't about Labor, longy, it's about the Liberals. Hypocrite.
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Reply #16 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:26pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

rex jackson..10years taking bribes.for early release from jail..
richard face.3 year good behavior bond
keith wright. child sex..8years.
bill D'Arcy .. child sex..11years
P,Nuttall
Brien Burke... twice in jail...

theres heaps more if you are interested???????//

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Reply #17 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:28pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.

The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.

heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

Wrong wrong wrong, Johhny smith, he is not a member now, but he was before the child sex case ruined him

According to wikipedia

In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail.

From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1]

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Reply #18 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:28pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

But this isn't about Labor, longy, it's about the Liberals.

Hypocrite.

we know you dont really want to know.. that dill john smith has just opened a pandoras box.... Grin

sorry peter couldnt help myself....

didnt the labor party just get rid of two candidates before they bring more shame onto the party???? Grin

dont forget these are all people welcomed like long lost brothers into the ALP..

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Reply #19 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:31pm

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.

The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.

heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

According to wikipedia

In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail.

From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1]

the ignorance from the left is

ASTOUNDING..

does he know that even after his conviction.. certain members of the ALP were visiting him in jail and doing all they could to get him out..as they didnt b elieve he was a paedophile ... Angry

they ,made me sick just as much as he did

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: libs defend drug dealers Reply #20 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:32pm No need for apologies, cods. Friends don't work that way.
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Reply #21 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ???

And now he is a Liberal candidate.

Can't the Liberal Party find candidates who don't socialise with serious criminals?

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Is this the best you can come up with ?

Yeah at least he wasn't socialising with rapists or murderers.

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Its very common for police to do such...

Troubling. Sounds like we need an investigation.

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded.

I have a theory that politicians and criminals are like-minded.

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ?

That would be a good start. I would say anyone who socialises with any serious crims should not be involved in politics.

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

I am happy for the government to criminalise brothels. Are you suggesting that trade unions be criminalised?

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: libs defend drug dealers Reply #22 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 5:25pm Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:32pm: No need for apologies, cods. Friends don't work that way. thanks pete... things are hotting up... a bit of biff is coming in so watch my right... wont you???..
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Reply #23 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-offi...

John Smith

So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ???

Is this the best you can come up with ?

Its very common for police to do such for many reasons, there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded.

So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ?

What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

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Reply #24 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:21pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.

The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.

heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

are you stupid or something?

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Reply #25 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.

The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.

heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

are you stupid or something?

Are you?

He said: "show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor".

He is not a member of Labor now, and he was not a member of Labor when he was convicted.

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Re: libs defend drug dealers
Reply #26 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

rex jackson..10years taking bribes.for early release from jail..
richard face.3 year good behavior bond
keith wright. child sex..8years.
bill D'Arcy .. child sex..11years
P,Nuttall
Brien Burke... twice in jail...

theres heaps more if you are interested???????//

Let's not forget Mr Travel Rort himself the Very Honourable Brian Joseph Langton:

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In April 1998, Langton relinquished his ministerial duties due to his involvement in a political scandal, after the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) found him guilty of corruptly rorting charter plane expenses. The ICAC deemed that Langton had sought advantage for himself by deliberate deception of the Parliamentary Accounts Department.[1][2] Langton stepped down at the 1999 state election, and left politics with a $90,000 indexed entitlement.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Langton

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

Grin

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

Grin

longy shows his stupidity ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.

The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.

heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

are you stupid or something?

Are you?

He said: "show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor".

He is not a member of Labor now, and he was not a member of Labor when he was convicted.

and if this were a court of law etc that distinction might be notable although not meaningful but to describe it as pedantic is being generous.

I am constantly amazed by the depth of dumbness that labor supporters exhibit when they want to talk about dubious behaviour among the Libs. This is an area of debate that a labor supporter with half a brain (ok there might be the problem) would avoid like the plage. But no... the dopes charge right in and then wonder why the dozens of jailed labor MPs get mentioned.

IN any debate you would think that the best course of action would be to go to a topic where you have strengths and not to topics where you have dozens of skeletons in the closet and many of them children...

I am sure that you share this (unadmitted) frustration with your fellow travellers and True Believers.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: libs defend drug dealers Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:42pm Bourgeoisie organized crime and capitalism ships in the drugs from their opium crops in Afghanistan and the golden triangle...
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Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Thanks Saladin. Anymore?

The answer is yes:

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David Parker, a Labor Minister under Burke and later Deputy Premier, jailed for 18 months. Perjury, having lied to the Royal Commission investigating corruption.

and.....

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Merrilyn ‘Merri’ Rose, Labor Minister for (again) Racing, Tourism & Fair Trade, 18 months jail for extortion.

and........

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Terry Martin liked being a Labor MP. He also liked having sex with and taking explicit sexual photographs of a 12 year old child. It was for his deciding to vote against Labor that the Party disowned him, not his pedophiliac tendencies, which does seem, after all, to be moving along quite nicely as a fine Labor tradition. Martin was convicted on pedophilia and creating child pornography charges, his sentence suspended due to his medical condition (Parkinson’s Disease).

and.....

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Phuong Ngo was an ALP poster boy, a Vietnamese refugee made good, being groomed by Labor to take up a seat in Parliament. Ngo’s on-going conflict with Parliamentarian John Newman was escalating quickly and, on 5 September 1994, Ngo had Newman shot and killed in the driveway of his home. Speculation as to the extent of the conspiracy beyond Ngo into Labor ranks continue, with ALP MP John Della Bosca asking junior MP Reba Meagher to vie for Newman’s seat an hour before his murder. Although the conspiracy links were never proven, the rumors of the extent of who knew what about Newman’s assassination have never settled. Ngo remains in strong communication with top ALP figures from his cell in Long Bay Maximum Security prison where he was sentenced “never to be released”.

and.....

Oh hell, we could be here until Xmas Grin

The Australian Labor Party is the 'enlightened and progressive' party.

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