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Reply #60 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:20am

He even has relatives of his criminal buddies working on his campaign:

Rogerson a friend of Libs' King

The sister of controversial former policeman Roger Rogerson is working on the election campaign of Ray King, the Liberal Party candidate for the western Sydney seat of McMahon.

Mr King is under pressure after Fairfax Media revealed on Friday that he had been called to front the 1996 Wood royal commission on police corruption.

He admitted to being one of a group of Fairfield detectives who provided informal security services to the Italian community Marconi Club in exchange for free meals and alcohol.

He was also subject of an internal affairs investigation over his association with Cabramatta brothel owner Salvatore ''Sammy'' Lapa. The pair were seen drinking together at the Marconi Club.

The revelation put Opposition Leader Tony Abbott under pressure to back or sack Mr King. But Mr Abbott has little option for dumping him, with nominations for the election now locked in.

Still, the matter is a bad look for the Liberal Party in western Sydney and has once again raised questions over the party's preselection processes.

Mr Abbott said Mr King was a ''highly respected policeman'' who was promoted three times after the royal commission. No adverse findings were made against him.

Fairfax Media has learnt that Mr King is a long-term friend of Mr Rogerson, the former detective who was jailed for perverting the course of Justice in 1990.

Mr King, a former local area commander at Liverpool, had a 40-year career before gaining preselection in McMahon. A senior Liberal source said Mr King had declared everything during his nomination process.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/rogerson-a-friend-of-libs-king-20130816-2s28m.html

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Reply #61 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:23am

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:46am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:25am:

So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ?

Cops shouldn't socialise with heroin dealers...and neither should politicians.

I am happy for both to lose their jobs for consorting with criminals.

According to you ?

I am happy for voters decide...although the issue has not been reported in the Telegraph so you have to wonder how well informed voters will be.

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Reply #62 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:27am

Federal Liberal candidate Ray King called out on claims he lives and works in McMahon

LIBERAL candidate Ray King claims to have lived and worked in the seat he is trying to win in southwest Sydney for 40 years.

The problem for the former police officer is he hasn't lived in the seat of McMahon, well, forever.

In fact the Coalition's hope of taking the now marginal seat from former minister Chris Bowen, lives in Glenmore Park, in David Bradbury's neighbouring seat of Lindsay - 37km from the heart of Fairfield.

When asked why his Facebook page makes the claim that he has "lived and worked" in McMahon for four decades, Mr King said it probably wasn't worded well... Roll Eyes

...his address for the past 25 years, and the one registered with the electoral commission, is 15km from the closest boundary to McMahon.

"There are a lot of people who don't live in their electorate," he said...

...Mr Bowen said Mr King should have come clean with his constituents.

"I do think it is important for MPs to live in the area they represent. But I think it is even more important to be honest about it when you don't," he said.

Mr King said taking the seat from Mr Bowen, who holds it by only 7.6 per cent, would be tough. "It will be a big ask," he said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/federal-liberal-candidate-ray-king-called-out-on-claims-he-lives-and-works-in-mcmahon/story-fni0cx12-1226661471880

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Reply #63 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:54am

did he call a disabled women in a wheelchair an F*BITCH and and F#SLUT i wonder???

and I am almost sure he isnt the only one that doesnt live in the electorate.....I seem to remember a labor female MP who had a home in the electorate and one by the sea...she claimed the one in her electorate was her full time address but she never lived there...she preferred the ocean view.....ho hum...

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Reply #65 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:07pm

cods

Yes in NSW Barry Unsworth was the Turramurra member for Rockdale and the NSW ALP health minister Reba Meagher was the Coogee member for Cabramatta.

Its nothing new, personally if your not a true local you don't get my vote.

Both parties parachute members, the worse was Garrett ..... he grew up in Abbott's electorate, was off the electoral roll period for a decade and ended up being a member in a safe ALP seat.

Rudd new spin doctoring mush have a 100 storms in a tea cup per day KPI or something.

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Reply #67 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:19pm

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:07pm:

cods

Yes in NSW Barry Unsworth was the Turramurra member for Rockdale and the NSW ALP health minister Reba Meagher was the Coogee member for Cabramatta.

Its nothing new, personally if your not a true local you don't get my vote.

Both parties parachute members, the worse was Garrett ..... he grew up in Abbott's electorate, was off the electoral roll period for a decade and ended up being a member in a safe ALP seat.

Rudd new spin doctoring mush have a 100 storms in a tea cup per day KPI or something.

thanks for that Fred.. Reba of course..fancy forgetting her..she twisted every little drop out of being in politics didnt she.. just like slipper and THOMO both running again to get the money..

shame shame shame.. we should shame them at the polling booths...just think $2.45 or something they will get for every vote..I hope it does them no good whatsoever.

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Reply #68 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Are conservatives psychopaths?

How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs.....and then low and behold got busted again a couple of years ago buying ecstasy..

so ask away... I am sure Tanya will give you some good answers to your question..

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Reply #69 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 1:01pm

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Are conservatives psychopaths?

How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs...

He was a 21year-old drug addict at the time.

The difference is that he was reformed and rehabilitated by the time he married Tanya Plibersek, having undergone treatment for his drug addiction, and long given up drug dealing.

It is not just a matter of drugs, but also a matter of real, or at least perceived, corruption.

Ray King as a police officer consorted with an ongoing drug dealer who was convicted of bribing police.

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Fairfax reported today that Mr King had been the subject of an investigation by police internal affairs after a complaint was made that Mr King had been seen with heroin dealer Salvatore Lapa at the Italian community Marconi Club on multiple occasions.

Lapa - who had been convicted of bribing police - was jailed for 20 years in 1993.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate-for-mcmahon-ray-king/story-fn9qr68y-1226698334379

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Reply #70 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:50pm

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Capiche?

I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted.

If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot.

Well?

Just like I said

White flag accepted.

Next!

I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post , Grin

No, your white flag post did that nicely. Thank you.

Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity.

but take it anyway you like

you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

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Reply #71 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:55pm

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Are conservatives psychopaths?

How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs.....and then low and behold got busted again a couple of years ago buying ecstasy..

so ask away... I am sure Tanya will give you some good answers to your question..

Is Tanya Pliberseks husband running for politics? In which seat is he running?

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Reply #72 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:03pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Capiche?

I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted.

If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot.

Well?

Just like I said

White flag accepted.

Next!

I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post , Grin

No, your white flag post did that nicely. Thank you.

Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity.

but take it anyway you like

you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

Like Thommo? the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it.

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Reply #73 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Capiche?

I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted.

If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot.

Well?

Just like I said

White flag accepted.

Next!

I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post , Grin

No, your white flag post did that nicely. Thank you.

Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity.

but take it anyway you like

you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

Like Thommo? the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it.

rumours just don't cut it dopey .... they need something a little more substantive than rumours.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #74 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:07pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Capiche?

I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted.

If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot.

Well?

Just like I said

White flag accepted.

Next!

I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post , Grin

No, your white flag post did that nicely. Thank you.

Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity.

but take it anyway you like

you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

Like Thommo? the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it.

rumours just don't cut it dopey .... they need something a little more substantive than rumours.

you excuse anything from Labor and that attitude is why pedophiles join the ALP. no one will question them as long as they win.

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