So you would be equally comfortable with each ethnic group setting up their own court in australa in order to deal with legal disputes and other matters?

Sounds like a great opportunity for each community to keep their legal outcomes secretive and perhaps even a means of preventing embarrassing legal cases from becoming public.

I am sure you would be very pleased with a law court set up in Australia that is based upon sharia law.

Grey wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 1:04am:



Because no school, workplace canteen or other secular eating place has dreamed of providing only kosher meat to all their customers, Jewish or otherwise, on the grounds that a minority of them are Jewish.


Let Muslims eat halal. But to make everyone eat halal is not on. Example:
What was supposed to be a welcome-back barbecue for students at Coburg West Primary School has turned into a debate over the Islamic halal method of preparing meat.

Members of the school's Parents and Friends Association believed they were being inclusive when they ordered halal-only sausages for last month's barbie.

But some parents thought it was political correctness gone mad to offer only halal meat.

Geddit?

Moses, I've shown many times that your interpretation of religious texts leaves a great deal to be desired.  You are well off with the fairys, as usual.   Allah is not shaitan.

10.100 : No soul can believe,except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.

32;13 If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."

18.057 : And who doth more wrong than one who is reminded of the Signs of his Lord, but turns away from them, forgetting the (deeds) which his hands have sent forth? Verily We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this, and over their ears, deafness, if thou callest them to guidance, even then will they never accept guidance.

17.046 : And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the qur'an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur'an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth).

45.023 : Then seest thou such a one as takes as his god his own vain desire? allah has, knowing (him as such), left him astray, and sealed his hearing and his heart (and understanding), and put a cover on his sight. Who, then, will guide him after Allah (has withdrawn Guidance)? Will ye not then receive admonition?

36.008 : We have put yokes round their necks right up to their chins, so that their heads are forced up (and they cannot see).

36.009 : And We have put a bar in front of them and a bar behind them, and further, We have covered them up; so that they cannot see.


4.143 : (They are) distracted in mind even in the midst of it,- being (sincerely) for neither one group nor for another whom Allah causes to go astray,- never wilt thou find for him the way.

6.039 : Those who reject our signs are deaf and dumb,- in the midst of darkness profound: whom Allah willeth, He leaveth to wander: whom He willeth, He placeth on the way that is straight

13.027 : The Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Truly allah leaveth, to stray, whom he will; But He guideth to Himself those who turn to Him in penitence,-

14.004 : We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom.

16.093 : If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions.


35.008 : Is he, then, to whom the evil of his conduct is made alluring, so that he looks upon it as good, (equal to one who is rightly guided)? For Allah leaves to stray whom He wills, and guides whom He wills. So let not thy soul go out in (vainly) sighing after them: for Allah knows well all that they do!

39.023: Allah has revealed (from time to time) the most beautiful Message in the form of a Book, consistent with itself, (yet) repeating (its teaching in various aspects): the skins of those who fear their Lord tremble thereat; then their skins and their hearts do soften to the celebration of Allah's praises. Such is the guidance of Allah: He guides therewith whom He pleases, but such as Allah leaves to stray, can have none to guide.

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I'd say you had best get back to your imam Brian, the qur'an says allah deliberately deceives men, my understanding of religious doctrine is, a diety that deceives or misleads men is satanic

It seems to me islam is about worshiping a demonic deity who beguiles people, muslims then whip themselves into a euphoric frenzy shouting the islamic death chant (allahua akbar) as they merrily slaughter these hapless misled (by allah) individuals.

So yes, I certainly can see why religious non muslim people, object to their food having a satanic curse put on it by muslims.

Not all Muslims are Jihadis like not all Jews are Zionists.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:43am:


So discrimination is only a concern if it is forced upon us by government?

If people started demanding "tolerance food" made only by people who utter "Muhammed was a warmongering pedophile" every morning tea at work, you would be happy with that?

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:


No. And no one "demanded" that meat slaughtered while uttering the outrageous phrase "in the name of God" be served. Muslims took it upon themselves to work with the meat industry to see what could be done to provide the muslim community with halal meat. The meat industry - understanding the market potential - were happy to get the ball rolling. This was back in the 70s FD - interesting that this has been going on for the best part of 4 decades with not even a whimper of protest. Meanwhile, halal has become mainstream - you'd be hard pressed to find any chicken products at Woolworths that are not halal; Oportos, Nandos, heaps of other fast food chicken places are halal. KFC uses halal meat, but the seasoning they use is not halal. You won't find any Indian restaurant that doesn't use halal meat. Does all this threaten you FD?

The point is, what started off as a low key enterprise from a tiny muslim community to provide meat for their community, has blossomed into a large-scale national industry. Why do you think KFC use halal meat, but end up not even having a halal product? Because it makes no difference to the industry whether or not its halal. Are you aware of any meat-industry personnel being discriminated against as a result of this? I can't see why - current standard non-halal slaughter consists of an automated bolt going through the heads of cattle and sheep, and an automated saw to cut the throats of chickens. My guess would be that you would need more personnel, not less as the level of automation is reduced for halal slaughter. Longer term, the halal industry will contribute more to the economy through exports, especially if the live-export trade is eventually abolished.

As usual, that is merely your interpretation, Moses and we are well aware just how bigoted you are.  I have no imam, Moses, I am not Muslim.  Indeed your attempt to claim I do, merely indicates the paucity of your ability to argue against what I've said.   Your simplistic "if you're not with me 100% you must be against me 100%" mentality displays how bigoted you are.  No other interpretation than your Takfiri one is allowed.  You are the mirror image of things you claim you oppose - irrational, bigoted, prejudiced and a zealot to boot.
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As we know you are a bigot and a takfiri, your interpretation of all these issues is to put it quite simply wrong and mistaken.  Your prejudice controls what little thinking you do.
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Still tastes the same.